Today we have a guest blog from reader Ian who we all know as 45Bravo. He will give you his observations on the Air Venturi Avenger. This is the surprise I mentioned in the Avenger Bullpup report.
If you’d like to write a guest post for this blog, please email me at blogger@pyramydair.com.
Take it away, Ian.
David and Goliath
This report covers:
- David vs Goliath
- Changes over time
- What’s it like owning one
- Where is David and Goliath
- Aftermarket upgrades
- It’s not pellet picky
- A Snappy idea, the Target Shooting Gauge
David vs Goliath
No, this blog isn’t about the biblical confrontation, but it is about the little guy going toe to toe with an airgun giant.
BB recently wrote an 8 part series about the Air Venturi Avenger air rifle, showing some impressive groups and flexibilities of the air rifle in how it can be tuned.
This report is about what you can expect owning one, and shooting it with your friends.
The Avenger is a price point PCP that has features and capabilities that normally require a much higher price tag. The rifle is offered with a plastic stock, and a wooden stock. I own the wood stock version, and a friend owns the plastic stock version.
In early 2022, Pyramyd AIR will be shipping a bullpup version according to their catalog and website, and after owning an Avenger, I can’t wait to get my paws on the bullpup.
Changes over time
Air Venturi has also been quietly making some upgrades to the rifle as the data comes in about how users are making it perform better. Some changes are quite visible, while others are very tiny, but it shows their dedication to give you the most accurate rifle they possibly can.
The most visible upgrade is the wooden stock. The 3 piece plastic stock has some flex in it if you put pressure on it in certain ways, and the bipod mount is directly connected to the barrel band. The wooden stock eliminates the flex and any pressure directly to the barrel band.
Inside of the shroud they have skeletonized the barrel support to allow more air volume in the shroud to reduce the sound pressure and noise level, they have also added a baffle system that is integrated to the end cap of the shroud to quieten it more than the shroud alone does.
The Avenger barrel stabilizer is skeletonized to pass more air and lower the sound pressure.
The muzzle cap is attached to several baffles.
They have also added a crown to the barrel, something the first ones didn’t have.
The Avenger barrel is now crowned.
One upgrade you may miss, (and it’s important NOT to accidentally misplace this upgrade) is the 2 screws that go through the barrel band from either side to retain the barrel shroud, the first guns just had the set screws that would impinge directly on the shroud and leave little marks. Air Venturi has since added 2 very small nylon or delrin balls that go between the screws and shroud so as not to scratch it, and give a self-centering retention system.
When removing your shroud, do not misplace these little tiny nylon balls.
Try not to lose these!
The nylon balls protect the shroud’s finish.
What’s it like owning one?
The Avenger fills to 300 bar (4351psi) so hand pumping is possible but filling to 300 bar by hand pump is not for the average individual, and should probably be left to the big Hulking green guy in the Marvel universe. You can fill to a lower pressure, but at the cost of shot count. My suggestion is to save up for a small compressor. You will use it on all of your PCP guns and will make your precharged life so much more enjoyable.
The rifle comes from the factory set to a ridiculously high regulator pressure, but it is externally adjustable, just follow the manual. I have reduced the regulator pressure to 1400psi on mine, and the rifle is launching JSB 18 gr pellets at about 855-860 fps, and getting about 100 shots per fill before falling off the regulator.
So where is David & Goliath in this story?
In the airgun world there are many manufacturers, but a small group of elite manufacturers produce high quality and very accurate airguns that every airgun enthusiast knows They are the Big 5, so to speak.
Air Arms
Daystate
FX
RAW
Weihrauch
In my opinion and experience so far, the Air Venturi Avenger will go toe to toe with any of these manufacturers where it counts, in the accuracy department.
Yes the fit, finish, and quality of workmanship of the Big 5 guys are the absolute best, but not everyone can afford the cost of admission into that ownership club. Nor do they want to take a $2000 or more rifle into the woods hunting.
A group of us have been shooting out to 100 yards indoors. We shoot a new FX Impact M3, a synthetic Avenger, and a wooden stocked Avenger. All of these guns will shoot FX or JSB pellets into less than 1 inch at 100 yards with amazing regularity.
There have been days where the FX is the winner with the smallest group, and days where one of the Avengers has been the winner, But all of them are so close it is a draw until you pull out the digital calipers.
Sure, there are fliers from all of the guns, but those can be mostly attributed to not sorting your pellets, dented skirts, the magazines and shooter error. The less expensive guns do seem to throw more fliers than the expensive gun, but using a single shot tray removes one of the variables in the flier equation.
I have owned many airguns, and, except for shooting in competitions, I have never bothered with sorting and weighing pellets. This is the first non-competition air rifle I have even considered worthy of sorting pellets to get the full benefit of what it has to offer.
The following two 5-shot groups were shot at 100 yards indoors with an Avenger using JSB 15.89 pellets. The rifle was mounted on a bipod, sitting on a table and sighting was done with a CenterPoint 4×16 AO scope. These are both outstanding groups at 100 yards from a $300 rifle.
This outstanding 100-yard group was shot by an Avenger.
Did I shoot 4 times or 5? It is hard to tell! Another excellent 100-yard group.
The FX owner has already ordered a new carbon fiber shroud and barrel harmonic tuner for his less-than-2-week-old M3, just to stay ahead of the Avengers. (side note: the price for the FX barrel harmonic tuner alone is half of the price tag of the Avenger rifle.)
Aftermarket upgrades for the Avenger
There are many places online that are offering “upgrades” to the Avenger in areas where they see a need.
DonnyFL offers an adapter that is threaded 1/2×20 so you may fit any airgun moderator onto the Avenger, his adapter also has a barrel centering/stabilizer that extends rearward to support the muzzle end of the barrel, it also helps prevent pellet clipping if there is any misalignment of the moderator with the bore. The downside to the adapter is with the moderator, it adds more length to an already long rifle.
If you are so inclined, one version of the FX barrel tuner will connect to the DonnyFL adapter on the Avenger so you can take advantage of that technology also.
There are companies offering 3D printed internal moderators and barrel supports, and one company is offering a chassis conversion to completely do away with either of the factory stocks.
Just remember, some of these changes may void your warranty.
It is not pellet picky
The Avenger does not seem to be pellet picky, it shoots Crosman domes well out to about 35 yards. Air Arms, JSB and FX pellets hold good groups out to 100 yards, and in my particular .22 Avenger I have found that the H&N Baracuda Match pellet seems to hold a better group at 100 yards than any of the others.
I haven’t shot the H&N Baracuda pellets against the other shooters yet, so it will be a surprise for our next get-together.
Like my target gauge?
I have to apologize. I picked up one of these Snappy group gauges back in 2016 when they first came out, but I’ve never posted any groups in any of my guest blogs to have shown it. It is a clever device, and does its job well, in both metric and imperial measurements.
The Snappy group gauge always has a place in my range bag to settle arguments between friends.
My advice to any new Avenger owner is clean the barrel, if your rifle has any air pressure in the gun, drain the air, follow the manual to lower the regulator pressure, and start working your way up until you find the pressure/tune that works for you, and shoot it! You will not be disappointed!
Shoot safely and have fun.
Ian
Ian,
Thanks for an owner’s view of this rifle. 100 yards indoors? Is that a storage facility/warehouse?
Siraniko
Yes that is the type of facility we have access to.
An added bonus is its climate controlled.
Ian
I forgot to put a link in the blog, but Pyramyd AIR does sell the Donny FL adapter for the Avenger.
Here is a link.
Ian
/product/donnyfl-air-venturi-avenger-extender-1-2-x-20-adapter?a=9831
Thanks Ian. It is nice to have someone else’s input on some of these airguns. That group gauge is awesome!
Ian,
Thanks for a good report. You are right, the little things like the shroud spacer balls show some serious thought went into this rifle.
However, the most intriguing thing you mentioned was that Donny adaptor. Please tell us more, or do a report just on that!
Thanks and Happy Happy,
-Y
I am still testing it, I haven’t noticed a shift in my point of impact, nor a change in group size.
There was just a little bit of clearance between the adapter and the diameter of the barrel, so I wrapped a few turns of the white Teflon plumbers tape around the barrel to take up the space and make it a press fit.
I can say, it is made from aluminum, and like all of his products, is very high quality.
Ian
Ian,
This is an excellent report. Congratulations!
Michael
I have the wood version in .22 and agree with your report. My Hatsan and ASP have the integrated moderator, so even with the new muzzle cap with baffles, it has a bark when maxing out the power. Before receiving the Donny adaptor and Tanto I did shoot an array of pellets and adjust the regulator. With a good pellet you can adjust the gun for excellent accuracy from a 13 to 25 grain range. For low power/paper shooting the 13 gr JSB is great. The best pellet for my Hatsan is the Baracuda Match and it is also very good with the Avenger. But for maximum power the 25 gr Jumbo Monster Redesigned is excellent. I did not notice a change in accuracy between the stock muzzle cap and the Donny adaptor & Tanto. But I was concerned with a possible POI change. It is long now, but really quiet and no regrets.
I have not shot it on high power.
Some people have used slugs with good results too.
I my target velocity was somewhere between 840 and 880fps and it seems to like it in the middle.
I am happy with the accuracy, the shot count, and with 29ftlbs of energy, it’s ability to target shoot, and take small game..
Ian.
Very impressive all around. Kudos to Air Venturi for offering a wooden stock version.
Off topic, but kind of an interesting, fun read related to arms, documenting some of the loony stuff that happens in the world of guns and the criminal justice system.
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/62969
Nice report, Ian. I own a .22 Avenger, and my experience is similar. It will hold groups comparing well with my brother’s (wonderful) AA S410. The factory regulator came set crazy high. Mine is now at about 1,800 psi, and will produce about 40 shot strings in the 35 ftlb range with 18.1 grain JSB’s. I now own two PPPCP’s, along with a Gamo Urban, also surprisingly good. I wish I could improve the Avenger trigger, and it is not exactly a beauty, but another amazing Chinese product in the price/performance competition.
Ian,
Nice report. Makes me want to run out and get one! 😉 1″ at 100 yards is very respectable.
I worked within a huge old GM stamping plant. The place is now one huge warehouse for used machinery sales. There is 3 lanes that run straight through (semi truck use). 400 yards I think would be a good estimate. I never got to shoot in there (I never asked) but I could just imagine. It was climate controlled as well.
Good day,……….. Chris
I enjoyed the blog. I want to buy one of the Snappy Group Mate target gauge.
Do you know who offers them in the USA?
Thanks,
David Enoch
David,
I want one, too. I;m trying to talk Tyler Patner of Pyramyd AIR into carrying them.
BB
A gentleman named Simon owns the company in the UK, a very nice guy.
He had a US distributor, but they no longer carry them.
But to be fair, the distributor is not into target shooting,
Mostly hunting and big bores.
Right product, but wrong company..
Ian
I’m a mite confused by the metric pellet drop scale. Surely, the centimeters should be millimeters.
I have been using circle drawing templates for gaging group sizes for the past 50 years or so. They are usually made of a tough flexible plastic, but I’m also using some old aluminum ones. Easy, peasy. I see Amazon has a 2 pc set that goes from itty bitty to 3.5” for $7.
it is impossible to shoot that kind of group with a Wal-mart CP scope. you must spend at least $1000 to shoot small groups or so we are told.
mildot652,
Oh, oh! Ian is a bumblebee who wasn’t told that he can’t fly! 😉
BB
I would like to be able to state that “no insects were harmed in the making of this blog.”
But I just don’t know.
If It was an insect it was by accident , as my scope doesn’t have that fine of a resolution.
I can see the dots made by the pellets on the white paper, but the crosshairs cover them completely when I try to use a pellet hole as a aiming point.
Ian.
I mis read your comment about the bumble bee.
I though you commented about the splatter around the first 5 shot group being a bumble bee.
I am all for doing the best you can with what you have.
Ian
mildot52,
I would think that $1,000 scopes ARE nice (don’t own one) but there are many good scopes in the $150 to $500 range.
I have reasonably priced Elements (Helix) and Hawke scopes that have decent glass and good turrets. Just got a nice little 4×32 Hawke for my HW30 that I like very much.
I’d be dubious about Wal-Mart scopes but there are lots of options on the Pyramyd AIR site.
I got a CP 4×16 mil dot scope for $69 about 10 years ago. it is crystal clear withstood 100’s of shots on magnum springers PCP’s. and PB rifles. never lost zero. they do not make that one anymore
I THINK the scope I hav is actually made by UTG.
It has the same locking turrets.
Side by side they are identical
I have the same scope on 3 airguns, one on my AirArms prosport, one on my AirArms 200s, and this one on the Avenger.
Ian
I have NEVER been able to spend that kind of money on a scope.
The most expensive one I have bought was a Hawke 4-12 side focus for about $260.
The center point has some stiction when adjusting the turrets, it is expected in scopes in this price range.
But I have alway tapped the turrets on any scope a few times with my knuckles or the handle of a small screwdriver to settle them after making adjustments.
I also hold over, I don’t click my scope, to me that’s why we have reference points our scopes.
Once I learn my hold overs I don’t adjust my scope.
The guys I have been shooting with are clickers.
With $800 scopes
When they show up they have to take a shot or two get their zero set as they didn’t keep track of where their scope was set the last time they shot.
Since the writing of this article, the owner of the synthetic Avenger has bought an FX Crown with the “tactical” stock and rear monopod.
There are other Avenger shooters in the group, but they tend to shoot .25 caliber.
Ian.
you are exactly right. spinning turrets is silly. using mil dots or hash marks is way better then turning turrets. also we are talking about pellet guns at under 100 yds most shot at under 50 yds not shooting at 1000 yds
So true, but with the velocities we shoot, and the weight of our projectiles, your hold overs in airguns out to 100 yards are similar to long range rifle shooting.
Mini sniping was popular in the 1980’s.
You would put empty 9mm pistol brass out at 35 yards, with the airguns of that time, it was a challenge.
The 9mmx19mm brass case is supposedly about the same aspect ratio of a man’s torso at about 1300 yards.
(Figuring that would require more math than I care to do at the moment, so I am taking their word about that.)
But figuring sizes, you are hitting the target with a projectile that would be equivalent to about a 5 gallon bucket in size.
With budget priced pcp rifles shooting like they do now, you would have to back that 9mm hull a long ways past that 35 yards of the 1980’s.
http://www.minisniping.org/
Ian,
The UTG scopes are pretty good, have one on my TX200 and like it. The Hawke brand was more readily available so I have a couple of them.
I’ve always been a “hold over” guy… set up the scope for the best point-blank range and live with that. Works fine for me out to 45 – 50 yards.
Now, with 100 yard airguns (and exaggerated trajectories), I feel that rangefinders and dialing is more practical.
I have three of 100 yard capable airguns and put Helix scopes on them. Like the positive clicks and zero-stop on them. My range is 128 yards, bench to backstop and I just got a stock of 25 grain Monster Redesigns, expect to be doing a lot of dialing next spring. 🙂
The Crown MK2 is a very nice rifle… accurate, smooth, light weight, fine trigger, plenty of power, great shot count and excellent balance. Think that it’s going to replace my HW100 as my favorite airgun.
Hank
Everyone,
When there is no way to respond to a comment, just respond to the commnent that it’s under and your comment will be where you want it to be.
BB
BB
True but if the person your replying to has only made one comment and he has no reply button he will not get a email notification the way you are saying to do.
He will have to read the blog or use a rss feed to see that peesons comment.
Ian,
Good blog – thanks for that!
I’m glad that Air Venturi has come out with their Avenger as it is an affordable PCP with an excellent feature set.
The Big 5 make excellent top quality airguns but I think that the Avenger is a better bang for the buck. Accurate, adjustable, regulated, side lever, repeater with a 4500 psi capability gets high marks on my list – especially considering its price point. Seems that the trigger is the weakest point.
That the Avenger can be tuned to a wide range of pellet weights is a huge benefit especially for people who don’t have the option of owning multiple airguns.
Surprising (to me) that most of the Big 5 are not tuning-friendly. With two brands, the (.22 caliber) rifles are sold in two versions – as standard (factory tuned for 18 grain pellets) or high-power (25 grain pellets). Changing the tune requires disassembling the rifle and is not recommend for untrained people… you are stuck with your choice, if the preferred pellet is not available or your needs change, going to a different pellet is not easy.
These PPPCPs are great! Wonder if there is a market for “Deluxe” versions with upgraded triggers, stocks and stuff like that. Interesting times!
Hank
Hank
True but also with extra features for tuning can get a person in trouble if they never messed with adjustable pcp’s.
So in some cases simple is better until you become more knowledgeable of how something works.
GF1,
Agreed. But how did you learn so much about airguns?
IMHO, to really learn you need to get your hands dirty. If you take notes and measurements you should be reasonably safe.
Hank
Hank
True. But I have always tended to live on the edge. Easy to get in trouble if you don’t pay attention what your doing and keep notes.
Gunfun1,
How did it go today at the D.D.S. office?
shootski
The trigger on my Wooden stock Avenger is no where the same as a Marauder trigger in smoothness, but it ain’t that bad.
It came set at 1lb 8 oz from the factory, with just a smidgen of creep in stage two, you only notice it when you are concentrating on holding your 30 caliber mildot on top of a .22 caliber pellet hole from a bench.
Offhand, you don’t really notice it.
Ian
the FX Impact M3 is extremely adjustable, but it has so many dials and knobs to turn, it can get you in “trouble” some people just have to twist knobs and spin dials.
We all know, once you find “the pellet” you shoot it and learn it.
Maybe try a new one when it’s introduced, but keep track of where you started before you go turning knobs on a good tune.
The concept of ultimate adjustability and even caliber changes is neat.
But in reality, how often do you change the caliber of your airgun and retune it?
Ian
Ian,
I have an Impact MK2 and it is perfect for my needs – primarily for pellets with some experimenting with slugs.
The main reasons I got the Impact was for long range target shooting and learning about tuning.
IMHO, it’s an excellent airgun, really like it but I prefer a more conventional rifle like the Crown for pesting, plinking and hunting. I think of the Impact as a bench rifle to be shot from a rest or a bipod and I’m more into off-hand shooting.
Tuning is a fun activity in itself. The FX Impact manual has a chart for recording the factory settings for reference, it’s a good idea to fill it in before making changes. 🙂
For general (sub 50 yard) I use, 18 grain JSBs; for longer ranges I’m using the 25 grain Monster Redesigns, they’re more expensive but you need the weight out there. I like to try different pellets and see how well I can get them to shoot. Been having good results as long as the pellets are fairly consistent – some brands are not very consistent but a bit of sorting really shows in better groups.
As far as caliber swapping, it’s a nice option to have but it’s not cheap and it will require resetting the adjustments – though that is not a big deal.
If you can own one high end airgun but needed, say, .22 and .30 then you could buy both barrel/magazine sets.
Begin able to change calibers could be a real boon. If you bought a .22 for hunting squirrels in the east then had to move out west and needed .30 for bigger game or for more energy at longer distances, a new barrel would be cheaper than buying a new rifle.
There’s a lot to the FX Impacts, lot of misconceptions as well. Been thinking of writing a guest blog on them. Maybe if I get some time.
Hank
Please do, they are great guns, and well worth the money if you have it available.
It’s like driving a Bentley over a Toyota, they both get you to the same place.
One is much more refined.
Ian
One is much more refined… and the other one you put 300k miles on. One has work to do, and one gets polished and talked about. I’ll take the work truck rifle over the museum piece every time.
I’ve known a few hunting guides over the years and if you asked them what their favorite gun of all time was- if you could only have one, etc- it was the rifle they pulled out from under the seat. 99 times out of 100 it was missing half the finish, had a little surface rust, dents and coffee stains on the stock. Most seem to be $500-$1k rifles with old, used, fixed power scopes that came off of uncle Jim’s rifle when he passed away. “Might be a Weaver. Or not. Not sure. Writing got rubbed off 20 years ago, and he dropped it in the Potomac river once- but it holds.”
Working guns are the only ones that have ever held any real interest to me. I am looking forward to the bullpup test. This avenger seems like a very skilled worker.
Vana2,
So the trigger is called out as not being so good…well why can’t the airgun manufacturers, especially of the PPPCP borrow the upgradeable trigger group concept from the firearm World?
Is it a numbers/cost issue or is it simply the lack of imagination/knowledge about the possibilities that has been shown so often by the “leadership” in the vast majority of the (toys) airgun industry.
shootski
Shootski,
I would guess that custom hammers with their unique latching setup would preclude using any sort of trigger group. Can’t see them collaborating.
Think that costs drive the decisions. You can get away with stamped parts and a sloppy fit on the less expensive guns so that is what they do.
Could also be because it hasn’t been that long since airguns (other than special 10 meter match guns) had the accuracy to justify the cost of a quality trigger. People accepted what was there so that was good enough.
Since many of today’s airguns are capable of dime sized groups at 50 yards and the PPPCPs are getting better all the time, I expect that it won’t be long before they realize that the trigger has to be half-decent as well.
Here’s hoping anyway!
Hank
A bit off topic…
The site just suggested an old (2011) blog that BB did and I followed the link.
Found it to be thought provoking and thought I would bump it as it would be useful for new (and old) airgunners to read.
BB, Might be an idea to republish this some time, think it is a gem.
Hank
/blog/2011/09/what-kind-of-airgunner-are-you/
Hank,
You’re right. That one is a gem and I will republish it after some editing.
BB
B.B.,
That has always been one of my favorites among many really good blogs you have shared with us. That one is just so much at the very core of what we readers constantly think about and even write replys about and then discuss at length among ourselves.
What a great blog for the New Year: Resolve to ken (in the Scottish meaning) what kind of airgunner you truly are.
If we look at the recent spectacular progress in precision many very affordable retail airguns have made the next step, in my opinion, is clearly to learn how to shoot them with greater practical skill. But then most of my shooting is not from a bench or bipod so i’m biased.
shootski
A question I have about the Avenger is if a cheap, Chinese gun will hold up over the years. That is my main reservation in buying one. I wonder if they use good o-rings, if the machining around the o-rings is smooth enough not to abrade the o-rings, if the metals used are good enough to hold screws and pins well, and if the regulator will hold up. I hope these concerns will be put to bed and that the Avenger is here to stay.
The one design feature of the Avenger that I don’t like is the high fill pressure. I wish the gun came with a larger reservoir filled to 3000 psi that would give the gun similar performance.
David Enoch
David,
I really want to know the specifics of your objection(s) to a 300Bar (4,351.132 psi) maximum fill. I understand the hand pump issue. But the same thing used to be the complaint about 200Bar (2,900.755 psi) just a few short years ago. Even the hand pumps have gotten better and the availability of compressors that cost less than a typical CF (Carbon Fiber) Cylinder should make it much more of an option.
I view this rifle as a hunter so the added weight and bulk of a larger cylinder would give me pause. You can always pack a small CF Cylinder in a pack to refill if you feel the shot count on 200Bar fill isn’t enough for your outing to the range or in the field.
Thank you for your thoughts if you care to share.
shootski
Shootski
Replied down here. No where to reply above. Didn’t know if you would see it.
All went good. Bleeding done pretty much right after the surgery. Pain is pretty well gone. Should be able to eat tomorrow.
Round 2 after the new year to get the fronts done then the dentures. Hopefully that all goes good to. Thanks for asking.
Gunfun1,
Thank you for the update hope the procedures keeps going perfectly.
I wish you and yours a Very Merry Christmas!
shootski
Shootski
Yep and Merry Christmas to you and your family too.
Folks, what a great gun, and I think it should last longer than somebody wearing a tin foil hat will.
I like the look of the walther bulpup better.
R
It’s only been on the streets for about a year, so we will see long term, but from what I have been reading and seeing over that year, a lot of shortcomings have been addressed.
One thing I didn’t touch on was the bolt probe alignment, some of the first guns sent out to content creators I have seen them talk about the bolt being just a little out of center vertically with the bore, and as such it abraded the bolt probe orings prematurely..
That seems to have been addressed with my avenger and the others I have seen that were bought in 2021.
The gun can be tuned shot and tuned performance wise to a 3000 psi fill, you will just have a lower shot count than a higher pressure fill will have with the same tune.
One of the group I have been shooting with does hand pump his Avenger, filled to 3000 psi, but I don’t know what his shot count is.
Ian
That is great performance with a 1400psi reg output, very efficient.
I want to put a regulator in my awesome Mrod, but also a hook for offhand target shooting. I may use a UTG folding hand grip. way harder than bench rest.
R
Great review. I was unaware of the ongoing improvements that AV has made.
I love my .177 and .22 Avengers. They taught me a lot about tuning, but I’ve found the hammer spring – even at its lowest setting – puts me past the “shoulder” for optimum shot counts. I might try to use a lighter spring. Also wish the triggers were better (the .177’s is much better than the .22’s and I’d love to find a 3rd party mod to reduce their creeping); or I might try trimming and polishing the sears to get better trigger performance.
Great guns for 50-100 yard target shooting, and for taking out invasive iguanas in our area.
One question: who makes the upgraded/alternative stocks?)
I THINK I want the Avenger bullpup in .177.
If it shoots as good as my .22 avenger, my Air Arms 200s may find a new home…
R Scott,
I was looking around for stocks and found this, https://bonaccigoods.com/ not sure if this is what Ian was referring to but it looks cool.
Mike
So would guess you would be in S FL, based on the comment about the iguanas. Have used pretty much everything in the airgun arsenal to keep them at bay including subsonic .22 rimfire. At this point the Benjamin Max .177 seems the best choice for that work. It is the only PCP in the locker but a good one. Hopefully there will be others.
I don’t know if you do Facebook, but there is an Air Venturi Avenger shooters association
Page on Facebook where he hangs out and people talk about their mods and things they do with their avengers.
I have my own Airetex Mini Magnum scuba compressor but I would rather fill my tank once a month instead of every week. When you fill close to 4500 PSI you don’t get many fills from your tank before the tank needs to be topped off. On any engine, motor, or mechanical device, there is more wear on start up than there is once things are warmed up and lubrication is flowing.
David Enoch
David,
Good points all.
Since I have about 400+ cubic feet of cascaded air, a raft of 22 cu. in. bottles, 2 Guppy CF tanks, and a dive shop that offers me cheap fills and volume discounts on top of that; I hadn’t thought of those points. I plan on adding a few more CF Cylinders to my current bank to keep my Big Bores in lots of hpa.
Thank you for your perspective.
shootski
Is there any truth to it having some concerning regulator creep?
Was reading a review on one of the popular air gun sites.
The last review was dated later part of November, so it’s pretty recent.