Air Venturi Avenge-X classic wood.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
This report covers:
- What does tuning an Avenge-X involve?
- Many things
- Adjust the regulator
- Remove all air — step one
- Step two
- Step three — tuning the rifle for Benjamin Bullseyes and a reg. setting of 145 bar
- Examined the test
- My record string
- Why different?
- Summary
Today we embark on a journey to tune the .177-caliber Air Venturi Avenge-X precharged pneumatic air rifle (PCP) we are testing. I knew I would have to do this for you because this rifle is tailor-made for the owner to tune. But it is so adjustable that you can well lose yourself while tuning it. What I needed was a plan, and fortunately I found one on the Pyramyd AIR website.
The plan is a video and it is so well done that I want to be just like its creator, Steve Scialli, when I grow up. The video is 42.5 minutes long and well worth watching, but for this report the most important segment starts at 7:52 minutes and ends at 11:13 minutes. The presenter is succinct and well organized. I could just end this report here if you watch that segment, but I won’t. Some of you have problems watching videos, so I will present you with a written record of what I did to tune the Avenge-X.
What does tuning an Avenge-X involve?
There are several things to consider when tuning this rifle. You can adjust the regulator pressure, the hammer spring tension and the transfer port orifice, which is binary — either High or Low velocity. Of course because this is an Avenge-X you can also choose the caliber, which is why I reminded you that the test rifle is currently set up in .177 caliber.
Many things
That’s a lot of things to consider. Where should you start and what is supposed to happen before what? This is where the video is invaluable.
First — select a pellet.
Then adjust the regulator to any pressure you desire.
Then adjust the hammer spring tension to get to the ideal spot where the pellet’s velocity varies by as LITTLE as possible.
I write a blog five days a week and don’t have a lot of time, so I have to move right along. I picked the 10.5-grain Benjamin Single Die domed pellet that I call the Benjamin Bullseye. Why? Because, thanks to Crosman, I have a lot of them and also because they are very accurate in this rifle. I could have selected any pellet but it is important to choose just one.
Adjust the regulator
In the video Steve says the regulator pressure is for adjusting the pellet velocity up and down and the hammer spring is to refine that velocity to an ideal setting where it varies the least. He says one to three f.p.s. variation is the sweet spot for the .25 caliber rifle he used in the video. And he shows how you determine this, but you will need a chronograph.
Steve found that the reg. operated well from 145 bar (2103 psi) to 210 bar (3046 psi). My Avenge-X came from the factory with the reg. set to 145 bar. You may remember in Part 3 that my Avenge-X had a velocity variation of 26 f.p.s. over 80 shots when set on High power. If what I see in Steve’s video is correct, I should be able to decrease that variation today. Of course I’m shooting a different pellet in a different caliber than Steve shoots, but we shall see. One pellet, one power setting, One reg. setting and then adjust the hammer tension.
Remove all air — step one
Step one is to remove all air from the gun. The 3mm Allen bleed screw on the left side of the stock does most of this, followed by a couple dry fires to exhaust the last bit of air that remains in the plenum. Back off the 2.5mm Allen screw hammer spring tension all the way before the dry-fire, then screw the tension screw back in two turns — no more than two to protect the exposed valve end. You do that to help with the dry-fire. When the dry-firing is finished and all the air is out of the rifle, back that hammer spring adjustment screw all the way out again for the procedure.
Bleed screw. Clockwise to tighten, Counter-clockwise to loosen/exhaust air.
Hammer tension adjustment screw. It stops when unscrewed counter-clockwise as far as possible.
After exhausting all the air from the rifle, close the bleed screw.
Step two
With all the air out, screw the regulator adjustment screw in (clockwise) until it stops. The screw on my rifle was one-quarter turn out.
Regulator adjustment screw. Clockwise all the way to adjust the reg. as low as it will go.
Now fill the rifle to 300 Bar (4351 psi). I used the RovAir Portable Compressor for this. The fill from zero to 300 bar took 8 minutes, 37 seconds.
Following this fill, and with the reg. screw turned all the way in, where is the reg. set now? I wanted to get it back to 145 bar and the gauge said it was down to about 100 bar.
With the reg. adjustment screw all the way in, the reg. went down to just about 100 bar. I wanted 145 bar, so I turned the reg. screw out 1/4 turn and the reg. settled at 145 bar/2103 psi. I dry-fired the rifle twice to make sure the reg. was settled, plus throughout the test I checked that it never moved.
Step three — tuning the rifle for Benjamin Bullseyes and a reg. setting of 145 bar
With the regulator set where you want it (145 bar for me) leave the reg. alone and adjust the hammer spring tighter in small steps. I chose 1/2 turns, but that turned out to be too much as you will see. Shoot and adjust the hammer spring tension until the velocity varies as little as possible. Then shoot a 10-shot string to verify that. I’ll show you how I did it in a bit.
After you find the sweet spot (the place where the velocity varies by the least) if you were to tighten the hammer spring more the velocity will start varying by more again. Be sure to record these adjustments (you should be recording all the adjustments) because when the variance increases, you want to adjust back to where the variance was the smallest. Shoot a 10-shot string to verify.
I started the procedure with the power set on High, but after five shots I switched it to Low. The rest of the procedure was performed on Low power
I adjusted the hammer spring from zero (all the way out) to 5.5 turns in. I tested the velocity several times after each adjustment. I also dry-fired the rifle twice after each adjustment. After 75 recorded shots plus dry-fires I saw the velocity variation was increasing. At this point, having watched the video, I stopped to examine the entire test.
Examined the test
Upon examination I saw that 3.5 turns in on the hammer spring might have been close to the sweet spot. I adjusted there and it was not quite right so I backed out to 2-7/8 turns in. That wasn’t better, so I went to 3-1/8 turns in. That gave me a 10-shot strong with a 6 f.p.s. variation — quite a difference from the 26 f.p.s. we saw in Part 3!
The record of my testing.
My record string
Shot……..Vel.
1…………..905
2…………..902
3…………..906
4…………..906
5…………..903
6…………..900
7…………..905
8…………..902
9…………..906
10…………903
Why different?
Why did I get 6 f.p.s. difference in my best string and Steve only got 3 f.p.s.? He used the magazine and shot fast. I used a single-shot tray that takes longer to load, plus I recorded each velocity manually while he used a recording chronograph. Therefore I went much slower which gave the plenum more time to fill with air.
Shoot for accuracy
If you watched the video, you watched Steve do everything you just read. Now it’s time to shoot the rifle for accuracy with this pellet. Steve recommends 50 yards minimum. I have 25 yards that are convenient, so that’s what I will use.
If you watched the entire video you learned that the minimum velocity variation isn’t necessarily the velocity at which the pellet you are testing is most accurate. To find that you may need to adjust the reg. pressure up (counter-clockwise turns of the adjustment screw), which you can do with the rifle pressurized. Go in 1/4-turn adjustments and then at each point adjust the hammer spring tension in small amounts. Shoot a 10-shot group after each adjustment. Do you now see why I say I am an old man and do not have the time remaining to do all of this? I sure hope I find the most accurate point quickly. I will even settle for just as accurate as before (0.271-inches between centers for ten shots at 25 yards).
Summary
After reading today’s report and hopefully watching at least the recommended segment of the video do you understand what I got out my pom-poms for the Avenge-X PCP? This is $1,500 worth of air rifle in a $500 package. Yes there are other adjustable PCPs and yes they are accurate and they do have great triggers, but this one is right up there with them.
My hope is to test today’s pellet for accuracy for Monday’s report. I already have a baseline on it from Part 6 (0.271-inches for 10 shots at 25 yards), so I hope to at least get back to that if not better. We shall see.
B.B.
Wishing you and all the vets, the thanks that we all owe you this Memorial Day Weekend!
-Y
PS whistling “Yankee Doodle Dandy”…
Second that, Yogi! No whistling on this side – can’t whistle worth a toot.
Well, looks like I have to shorten my Avenge-X tuning blog….
Hey, that means I get to cover a few more slugs in the first slug test, and less intro & setup.
A win win for everyone!
Ian.
Ian,
Ooops! I didn’t mean to step on your toes. 😉
BB
Memorial Day,
There are a few YouTube videos out here that pay tribute to Veterans but one in particular is said to have brought a Marine combat veteran to his knees. A very touching tribute put to a song that highlights events Combat Veterans experience. Worth viewing this particular holiday.
“The Sound of Silence Military Tribute” … YouTube, 4:24 min. Never Forget!
Air Venturi is certainly making its mark in the airgun world. Beginning to feel I would be foolish not to get this Avenger-X.
Bob M,
I watched that video. It was very difficult to watch through the tears in my eyes.
Thank you.
Bob M,
Thank you.
One too many Memorial Services makes this a very difficult HOLY-day for me.
The creator of the video did a great job covering the ground pounder’s moments of grief but missed one of the most gut wrenching scenes; when there are no bodies and the Memorial Service ends with Wreaths floating in the Wake of the ship.
May each and every Veteran who gave to the last measure for their Brothers and Sisters Rest In Peace everlasting.
shootski
You were right, B.B. A fascinating blog. At first blush, I was thinking, why is B.B. chasing tighter groups when he is already getting 0.271 inches at 25 yards? But then I realized that you are really going for sub-minute of angle groups at 100 yards.
Roamin,
Well, I can’t say much right now but I just got it! Monday.
BB
Thanks for the great report BB. I am one who generally prefers a written instruction over most videos. And you are very good at creating both the written and video versions. Having access to both a well written instruction and a well-done video is a rare treat. The processes described are long and tedious. So, it helps if one can enjoy the process instead of just being over-anxious for the results. Personally, I enjoy learning why we do things. Then, when something unexpected arises, it is easier to figure out what is happening. You are very good at explaining things so we can know why it is done that way. The AvengeX is amazing. Thanks again.
I used to watch Steve all of the time. I stopped watching him and others as what they were receiving to review were airguns that were way beyond what I was willing to pay. I must give it to Steve that he is very methodical when it comes to his testing, more so than most others.
The reasons I like this blog so much is BB has over the years developed his own methodology for testing and most often he is testing what is more affordable to many of us. We are most fortunate that he is given the freedom to express the good and the bad of a particular model. If you pay real close attention to what and how it is said, the others will give you insights into their dislikes concerning some models whereas BB is given the freedom to express his displeasure openly, which he has done on more than one occasion.
Another reason I like it here is BB himself seems to have no socio-political inhibitions concerning where the manufacturer may be located in what part of the world. A prime example is this particular air rifle. I personally have some pretty tight hangups concerning the origin of this air rifle, but BB does not and is quite willing to sing its praises and break out his pom poms. His sole concern is the advancement of this pastime.
RidgeRunner like you, there are many Airguns I would like to have, but am unwilling/unable to pay.
With the recent advancements and Airgun technology and the Chinese ability to make a good accurate barrel, it’s no longer a rich man’s game to get a very accurate Airgun.
I have owned FX in the past. But not now.
The most “high end” airgun I own at the moment is a Daystate Wolverine from 2015 in .22 caliber.
I did not get it new, it was gifted to me by a long time friend that was tired of messing with it.
The $320 JTS unregulated standard shoots toe to toe against the $1600 Daystate.
Yes the Daystate has a nicer trigger, and has a nicer finish. Yes it is better polished internally but it’s not a $1300 difference in my opinion..
The Air Venturi Avenge-X is around the $530 range. It holds its own on paper against an FX Crown MKII with Saber Tactical and FX upgrades, out to 100 yards.
Enough to the point of where it comes down to the shooter more than the equipment.
Yea, but with all the advances in technology and engineering, PCP’s really shine with slugs well past 100 yards. At 25 yards, my springers can keep pace with PCP’s. I can only dream about 100++ yards….
-Yogi
Pellets B.C. pale in comparison to slugs, and at distance B.C. become the most important thing.
I do understand. I used to own a RAW .357 HM1000X that I had bought new at what at the time was a very low price. It was an extremely accurate air rifle. It was also very boring. It was a pretty paper puncher. Not for me.
I have since traded it for an AirForce .457 Texan LSS. Hopefully I will get some trigger time with it and get it tuned in right for a bit of long-range shooting. I have also just started working with a .25 Armada I picked up at a good price at the last NC Airgun Show. One of these will be my long-range hunter. I have not decided which yet.
Though not a personal fan of Wang Po Industries, they have managed to come a long way in recent years in the airgun industry. They are also priced where the average airgunner can afford them.
I am often baffled by the high prices of the airguns coming out of Eastern Europe and then I remember who is selling them. Those companies are known for their very high prices. Things have always cost more on the Left Coast.
The Avenge-X has almost gotten me over my personal prejudices concerning Wang Po Industries. Almost.
P.S. So has that JTS Airacuda.
B.B.,
I knew this was going to be one of your better Blogs when i read “First — select a pellet.”
In one of my replies to you on Big Bore tuning i wrote: Select a bullet (slug) for the task, then select the airgun that can shoot it, and finally tune that airgun to shoot that bullet.
The Regulator allows for more prompt tuning compared to changing the valve spring rate or valve volume on an non regulated airgun.
One caution is that the regulator input operating pressure range should not be violated or performance will suffer or even cause permanent (that’s why some airguns are using stepdowns and larger plenums) damage to the regulator.
shootski
PS: PICKY shootski says, not so fast B.B.
In “Why different?
Why did I get 6 f.p.s. difference in my best string and Steve only got 3 f.p.s.? He used the magazine and shot fast. I used a single-shot tray that takes longer to load, plus I recorded each velocity manually while he used a recording chronograph. Therefore I went much slower which gave the plenum more time to fill with air.”
I think you have a system that is less broken in than Steve’s (you have only had it since Monday) yours (regulator) may settle in as you get more shot cycle count under your belt. Time will tell.
Shootski, this is part 8 of his .177 caliber Avenge-X. Looking at the velocities on the paper I don’t think he has changed calibers yet.
While I agree that Steve probably has many more rounds through his than Tom’s his rifle has probably settled in.
Ian
45Bravo,
What you say may very well be true the but is that after 7 blogs and the prior shooting Tom has changed (messed ;^) with his Regulator settings as well as his Striker/Hammer Spring rate. I have found in my limited use of typical airgun regulators that they take time to adapt after every change of setting. With large and very spendy off board regulator(s) there is less post adjustment drift and adaptation interval. With most Striker/Hammer and springs a change in preload results in the same phenomenon (even more so in preload reduction) in balance valve systems. Most of my experiences are with Big Bores and the Heavy Metal and substantial increases in Mass of charges and projectiles may make what i have experienced more evident.
I wonder if you have detected anythings of a similar nature in your experiments.
shootski
My experience with regulated airguns has all been small bore (.25 caliber and under).
But I do have experience with the factory regulators and several aftermarket ones of various price ranges.
My big bore experience so far has been with unregulated AirForce airguns.
In my tinkering with tuning the small bore airguns, when I have returned to a previously known good tune settings, I have found that even a very small amount either way on the reg or hammer spring can have vast differences in pellet or slug performance.
45Bravo,
Ian you point out EXACTLY why you need a very accurate Chronograph to track the impact of changes and verifying Return To Settings previous known performance points. It is also the only way i know of accurately detecting post adjustment drift.
Anyone thinking about buying an PLATFORM airgun like the Avenge X and making any changes is fooling themselves not buying (and using) a Doppler RADAR that has muzzle and multipoint down range projectile tracking capability.
shootski
45Bravo,
Ian in a reply to Roamin Greco above B.B. wrote:
“Roamin,
Well, I can’t say much right now but I just got it! Monday.
BB”
Am i missing something? Is this a different airgun then that used for earlier Parts to this series?
shootski
Shootski, I believe that they are discussing sub-minute-of-angle groups at 100-yards and that we will learn more in Monday’s upcoming report. But I could be wrong.
Elmer Fudd,
Reading it that way…
I believe you are correct.
shootski
This is interesting. After discussing pellets that might work for a 362, we now are discussing a rifle that one can tune to a particular pellet.
I am curious as to what pellet (or slug) readers would want to tune this rifle for and why?
For me, I just noticed a woodchuck at the back of my yard, perhaps 50 yards away. I would want to see this rifle with a .25 caliber barrel and a silencer to muffle the report, shooting hollowpoint slugs.
Roamin Greco,
Careful on thoughts of malice toward that ‘chuck! You don’t want a Game Warden knocking on your door. Check out your depredation/hunting laws in your state before you proceed with any extreme prejudice termination ops.
shootski
Good advice. Always check.
Interestingly, chipmunks are protected around here.
However, there ought to be an exception for trespassers on the homestead. Doesn’t the Castle Doctrine apply to 4 legged or feathered trespassers? ;o)
Roamin Greco,
Chipmunks have fancy fur coats compared to squirrels and also better Publicists…
My wife blames the garden damage on the squirrels or rabbits and gives the chipmunks a pass…i don’t.
Depredation permits are usually available from local governments after providing photographic proof.
shootski
I would love to get a depredation permit for the deer in my neighborhood. The local herd has exceeded the carrying capacity of my azaleas and hostas, not to mention the row of 50 arborvitae that they use as a salad bar.
Just worried about retrieval from neighbor’s yards. Some of them probably feed them and name them. There were 13 deer at one time in my yard in February. We are about to get fawns dropping all over the place.
Roamin
Sounds like Fripp Island habitat.
Deck
Exactly! I need shootski to pay us a visit. I have a perfect elevated blind (cedar wood swingset).
In FM’s UO – Unimportant Opinion – BB should get this coming Monday off, but FM not boss-man of blog and also suspects BB is happy to continue blogging about the Avenge-X. FM is happy to continue reading about it.
FM,
Your opinion is held in higher regard then you may think. You may have not played with as many different “toys” as some, but what you know, you know.
Looks like the RSS feed may have taken the weekend off….
Nope, it’s back.
Besides my socio-political views, I think I have figured out why I do not want to buy the Avenge-X, Airacuda and most of the other “new” air rifles. It is the high fill pressure.
Crosman has shown folks that you do not need to fill to 4500 PSI to have a decent airgun. The Discovery, then the Maximus and now the 3622 work great on 2000 PSI. They used to advertise that you could tune the Marauder down to 2000 PSI. In fact, they used to advertise that you could fill the Discovery and the Marauder with CO2. That is only around 1000 PSI.
Whatever happened to the “low” pressure airguns? The Girandoni would shoot over twenty .46 caliber killing shots on about an 800 PSI fill. Many of the old timey airguns only filled to 600-800 PSI. I am certain many a deer was brought down with these things.
I do understand that the higher the fill pressure, the more shots can be obtained. Most all of those airguns have regulators that cut the pressure at the valve down to 1800 PSI or lower. I had an old Talon SS that filled to only 1900 PSI to be at the top of the shot curve and would get over twenty accurate shots before it needed refilling.
I think we are headed in the wrong direction. I would really like to see the 1000 PSI PCP brought back. I know. For some reason everyone wants to shoot 100,000 shot per fill, even on their “hunting” air rifles. Why? Where I live, we have a small game bag limit of six per day. How many times are you going to shoot that squirrel?
I have to agree, RR. Maybe because I’m old and a bit curmugiany But the need for the ability to fire more projectiles, faster is not one that ever affected me much.
I do like a semi auto feature but not to shoot as fast as I can, but to be able to stay in my shooting position between shots. Maybe I’m just lazy.
I do have a few magazine fed rifles, but I will generally use the single shot tray instead if I have one for the rifle I’m shooting. Seem to me to be more accurate,, but that could be my imagination.
I have an Mrod,, the original style. It stays in the black (of a ten meter bull) from 2500 down to 1000. Somewhere around 30 shots. I messed with it a bit to get it there. I only have a scuba bottle and it is only good for 3000psi,, so subsequent fills are obviously less. Works for me, anyway.
Haven’t been doing much shooting of late. Need to get one of those round tuit things.
ed
edlee,
I acquired a .25 Armada at the last NC Airgun Show and have just started messing around with it. I have not decided whether it will become my “slug” gun or if I will tune it down to a low operating pressure as of yet. I do like the idea of 2000 PSI or less.
Even in my powder burner days I did not care for semis. I learned that a quick follow up shot was more often than not a miss. I always liked bolt action. I slowed down and learned to make the first shot count. My father also encouraged me to not miss with the first shot by limiting the number of rounds I had and taking away one for every miss.
RR
My Gamo Urban .22 with BSA barrel and assembled in UK often delivers sub MOA at 25 yards using its 10 shot magazine. It fills to a little over 3000 psi and sweet spot starts at 2900 psi with lowest hammer spring tension. Below is my chrony result.
6/4/23. Chronographed Urban without refilling air. Starting reservoir was 2500 psi
Urban using AA 16 gr
Fps. Psi
822. 2500
813
821
821
822. 2200
818
827
820
825
828. 2000 psi
Average= 822 fps
Range= 15 fps
FPE= 24.01
I used the same hand pump BB most recently tested to fill until I got my small portable compressor.
Deck
Decksniper,
Those are great raw numbers and averages!
They are even more instructive when thought of as percentages.
What is causing the variation in MV?
Chronograph Timing Error?
Projectile Mass (weight) variation?
Projectile dimensional variation?
Shot Charge pressure/duration variation?
Any of the above could be enough to be the culprit!
Now the big question. How does one find out which one(s) are causing the well under two percent variation?
Got any ideas?
Perhaps some of the Readership has some ideas on potential tests to eliminate or prove the GUILTY factor
shootski
Shootski
I get 30 shots (3 good groups, mags) a fill. Since I and others believe the Urban’s sweet spot begins at 2900 psi, the best groups are usually the first after filling. Since this rifle can go head to head with my .25 Avenger I have not messed with higher hammer spring settings. There isn’t an adjustable regulator. I’m guessing when I say the fps range will be best during this sweet spot zone. Yesterday I shot JTS 18.1 grain domes for the first time in this rifle and got a .22” ten shot group at 25 yards. I have gotten a .18” with AA 16 grain domes. Folks, this is rested so it’s the rifle and not much me. Next time I fill it I’ll try to remember to chrony the first group with JTS pellets and then the next time with AA pellets.
PS: It won’t be an accuracy test because when I chrony my undivided attention is on not shooting the sky screen rods.
Deck
Decksniper,
Those are nice groups rested or not!
I have been doing a deep dive on Very High Pressure regulators to see what is out there beyond what the airgun world is feeding us.
I’m trying to find out how regulators play with my Quackenbush High Power gas hogs. I’m not interested in increasing the shot count but rather looking at ways to use the existing pressure tube at constant/consistent pressure and how it will effect shot to shot POI consistency. Right now i am looking for the static bench performance but eventually i want to see if i can get a practical use of an external regulator in the field.
The first step is to see how much it improves POI from the bench.
The next is to see if i can get consistent sub MOA groups out to 300 with my .308 DAQ without needing to do the Hold Off dance to compensate for air tube flex.
There is a great deal that no one accurately talks about on the airgun forums about best designs, best choice of, and best practices with regulators.
shootski
Deck,
One specific answer. You wrote: “…the best groups are usually the first after filling.”
From my researching regulators and specifically how we airgunners use a regulator (they are just fancy valves) there is always a best limited range of input pressure for output pressure stability. Manufacturers should be providing that information!
shootski
Shootski
I forgot to say I don’t fill beyond 3000 psi as read from both compressor gage and Urban’s gage which happen to agree. So my first group should be close to the sweet spot.
I found Tyler Patner’s Urban review which confirms the sweet spot location. Tyler also tested a 15 fps spread there.
I am curious to know how much correlation exists for POI consistency vs air pressure behind the pellet. Maybe your plans will shed light on it. I think it was Gunfun1 who said that sometimes accuracy is impressive even when fPS variation suggests it should not be.
Deck
Decksniper,
Tom wrote a 5 Part Blog on the GAMO Urban back in 2018; Gunfun1 was a big contributor to the comments.
Since that Urban was not regulated there was some discussion about that.
The Quackenbush rifles have always had the air tube POI shift since i started shooting them. With the sheer volume of air and the consequent large pressure drop with each shot pressure tube flex is virtually inevitable.
B.B. has covered much the same in any number of his Quackenbush airgun reviews.
Some folks never broke the code or were unwilling to admit that if it was repeatable (which it was) that POI shift did not reduce accuracy of the rifle and shooter but rather the rifles by themselves could, in fact, be be called imprecise. Quackenbush set out to build a hunter – some folks falsely thought that meant more than first shot accuracy.
All i know is that if i do my job i can get under one MOA at 100 and beyond from my DAQ .308 (the same on my .458 and .58 for two/three shots) on five shots before refills. Yes it takes remembering to shift POA to get that small POI.
Gunfun1 spoke of the proof of accuracy being found on the target and not necessarily in small variance in any one variable. I take that one step further and say that degree of accuracy is based on degree of control of as many little variables as posible by the shooter.
There is however a huge increase in the importance of MV stability on the POI the farther away one is planing on shooting a target regardless of the shooting platform. Most airgunners never (seldom) shoot at distant enough ranges to perceive which variables change with what demands placed on there airguns.
shootski
Shootski
If I knew where a flier was going to land I could compensate and it wouldn’t be a flier. This is not to be funny. If air is running out and one knew how much it would string the group, POA adjustments could cancel the string same as adjusting for a known wind speed and direction. Precise knowledge of variables is invaluable and also daunting.
Deck
Deck,
Because of you, I have often considered a Gamo Urban. Too many airguns, so little time.
RR
Here’s a bit more bait for you. The Gamo Urban is really a hunting gun or plinking gun. My hunting days are in the past but I could carry the Urban for hours with ease. I would not care to carry my Avenger or FWB300S much farther than my deck. At 24 fpe it delivers punch accurately at least to 50 yards.
You should shoot one if you have not done so.
Deck
Deck,
I have not shot one. If you send me yours, I will be happy to shoot it. I will even supply the air and pellets for doing such. 😉
I no longer hunt myself but would take it up again if I needed to feed myself and Mrs. RR. As for trying out the Urban, I am certain it would be nice, but I have quite a “collection” as it is. It would likely be similar to what I already have. I also like to concentrate on the “old gals” rather than the young’uns. That Urban is just not old enough to live very long at RRHFWA.
RidgeRunner,
“For some reason everyone wants to shoot 100,000 shot per fill, even on their “hunting” air rifles.”
“Why?”
Easy to answer! Why do guys buy those BIG Complex Wrist Chronographs (NOT Chronometers) that Divers, SOG Operators, Race Car Drivers, Sailboat Racers, and Aviators wear…
https://www.watchobsession.co.uk/blogs/watchobsession-blog/what-does-a-chronograph-watch-do#:~:text=A chronograph watch is used,measure distance based on speed.
Stolen Valor = Shot Count ENVY comes to mind…pretenders… especially guys with small apparatus of whatever type.
shootski
shootski,
I think you are on to something there.
Guys, total offtop – I JUST BOUGHT the FBW800 Basic… I’m going totally crazy right now! 🙂
tomek,
Gratuliere!
Shoot more pellets it is the only way to have half a chance of regaining any of your sanity…IF you had any to begin with ;^)
shootski
tomek
Hope you will share a photo. Enjoy!
Deck
Tomek, take lots of pictures as you go, then tell us all about it. Ahem, in a guest blog, Ahem.
tomek,
Gutsy move. Congratulation. Make sure you recognize the symptoms of Adrenalin Depletion after you complete a shooting session. May be the last air rifle you will ever need? For now, anyway.
Thank you guys! I hope it take not too long to open the box. I will definately show you this brand new baby. Maybe it is worth a blog? I will chrony it anyway… Hope it will not take longer than one week. Need to distract me with something till it comes. (hard time waiting)
I recall that you hesitated to do a guest blog in the past due to language hurdles. If you need any help with the writing or editing, I’m happy to be of service, although you do fairly well judging by your comments.
RG,
Many thanks, I really appreciate your support. The issue was more no time to do it right. When writing a blog I try to do it the best it goes – you need some time for this. My issue recently was “not having 2 hours without disturbing” 🙂
I think the language may be first supported by some translator soft to avoid stupid mistakes. Normally I don’t use this stuff (you can see some stupid mistakes sometimes). It is like that – when you are not borne with the language there always be some issue with articulating.
UPDATE – just received the confirmation, my new baby is on the way!