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5.0 5.0
Material and heft of the gun is good. Good quality for the price. I haven't had it long enough to tell if it will hold up. Other reviews state that the seals break after shooting for awhile.Can not say. Right now it is a good buy and I love the gun.
Things I would have changed:Kind of hard to cock, but it is new, maybe it will be easier after being used for awhile. Hard but not impossible.
What others should know:Must be lubed before first shot and keep well lubed after it looks like it needs it. Lithium grease on the piston and pellgun oil on the seal where you put the pellet. Guy on youtube explains it all. 1942nuclear.
5.0 5.0
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4.0 4.0
Solid construction, easy to cock, reasonably accurate. The heft of the gun makes it feel much more expensive than it is. The cocking effort is acceptable and smooth, with no roughness apparent. Solid thunk when fired. Great design.
Things I would have changed:Design a pellet loader for the pistol, and include it with the gun.
What others should know:The P17 is the Chinese version of the German made P3. It is an astonishing value - it is hard to believe this gun can be sold for $35. I own over 40 air guns and this one is the best bang for the buck by far. Honest 400 fps and an accurate plinker, but the velocity is too low to hunt with. I must admit I've never handled a P3 but I can't imagine that it is worth 6 times the price of the P17. Every air gun enthusiast should have this in their collection.
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Vey well made. Zero recoil when shot. I was amazed that when you shoot , the gun has no shake at all. Very cool.
Things I would have changed:a little tough to cock
What others should know:Shoots pellets only
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
this is a great pistol, especially for the money. The trigger is really smooth, one of the best triggers I've found. I cant believe this gun sells for so little money!
Things I would have changed:Nothing for the money.
What others should know:Buy it, You'll love it!
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Realism, weight and feel, accuracy is excellent.
Things I would have changed:The one thing is that it is really hard to cock.
What others should know:Very good pellet pistol. Beware, you cannot shoot BBs from this gun: pellets only.
4.0 4.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Accuracy, trigger, decent power for target shooting ... Need some fixations but worth it ...
Things I would have changed:Actually I changed a lot on this gun. 1) I changed all of the o-rings to be sure. O-rings are cheap so this operation was inexpensive. You'll need 2 #006 hnbr70 o-rings for valve system and 1 #116 hnbr70 o-ring between compression chamber and piston.I'm not recommending changing breech o-ring because it's thicker then hnbr70's and you'll lose power if you can't find a thick o-ring. 2) I bend right outer rod slightly outside(right when you are holding the gun) in order to keep contact with hammer. If you have a leak closing the gun the reason is the slide of hammer over right outer rod. You can examine this removing right grip and cocking the gun. After bending it, I shot 300+ pellets. No problem ... 3. The rear elevation screw had a problem. It didn't stand still. So, I changed screw and nut with longer M4 70mm bolt and a corresponding nylock nut. I used loctite medium strength on them to hold it's place.
What others should know:Mine leaks after 20 shot but you can fix them all with a decent internet search. I found all of this solutions from internet and I used all of them on my gun. I didn't have any problems for 300 or more shots ... Now, it's a perfect gun for the money. I gave 4 star for overall rating because I couldn't use it out of the box.
4.0 4.0
5.0 5.0
4.0 4.0
This gun is a copy of the wonderful HW40 which Beeman also had made for them as the Beeman P3. The design of this gun renders great accuracy in a single pump pistol. This cheaper chinese copy is every bit as accurate as the more expensive models it is a copy of (even as accurate as the Webley Alecto) but made with slightly cheaper materials.
Things I would have changed:Make the gun with higher quality o-rings, otherwise this chinese copy of a great german design is a real airgun bargain.
What others should know:The rubber oring seals in the gun arent the best and the air inlet hole should be checked for roughness/burr on the inside of the compression tube because any roughness can/will damage the o-ring. You should learn to work on these guns (which is very easy will all the how-to info on the net about P17's) in order to get full enjoyment out of this gun. At about $35.00 this pistol is one of the great bargains in airgunning as long as you don't mind a little maintenance and geting to know the gun on a personal level.
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
4.0 4.0
The price is awesome
Things I would have changed:Flanges on handgrips were a little rough, had to file them down til they were smooth and even. Would have changed the pellet loading method to an easier one.
What others should know:This little pistol is an awesome and fun gun for the price. The single stroke pneumatic is fast, but you must be strong to handle the overlever. Have had the gun two weeks and no failures yet with 500 rounds fired as of yesterday (2 tins of Crosman destroyers). Accuracy is good and most problems are becuase I haven't gotten my "gun legs" back after 30 years of not having shot any pistol or rifle. I am hooked on this pistol.
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Single pump, good weight and balance with a smooth trigger pull, low recoil and very accurate. This is the right gun for my basement shooting range.
Things I would have changed:move the safety to the right side or make it ambidextrous.
What others should know:A little difficult to load especially if you have big fingers. Easier to load with pointed or domed pellets.
4.0 4.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
The accuracy , lack of much noise , power , feel , fit and finish ( can't believe it's made in China ! )safety ,weight , options and price . You need at least one of these .
Things I would have changed:I'm not sure how you could do it but make it easy for guys with big hands to load easier or offer a loader like they make for ball and cap guns ( i'm making my own ), find someway to keep the rear seal in position and again I don't know how you could do it but try and make it easier to cock so I can spend more time shooting mine and less time cocking my girlfriends .
What others should know:If you want the best bargain on an air pistol anywhere order one or two of these and retire most of your others and by from the guys at Pyramyd Air -they know air guns .
1.0 1.0
1.0 1.0
5.0 5.0
I like the one pump one shot and it is very very accurate.
Things I would have changed:The o-rings lasted about 300 shots and then started leaking air to the point that it would not hold air or shoot.
What others should know:The o-rings failed and after an email to pyramyd air they gave me a printout to ship the gun back free of charge and could choose refund or replace the gun. I decided to try another one just because it was fun to shoot and so accurate. I hope the next one lasts longer but somehow I do not expect it to. Pyramyd was great.
By pcp4me from USA on 2017-05-02 |
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Every thing but maybe the loading of the pellet ( I have large hands ) . The sweetest trigger around , great sights , great power , solid well finished hand gun and more accurate than my old eyes are . Nice low soft sound when fired .I love this gun .
Things I would have changed:The only thing would maybe offer a pellet pen that is like the percusion cap tool that is made for black powdered pistols . I tried a pellet pen but it dosen't have an angle to get it to feed in this gun .
What others should know:Buy one or two and have a blast , shoots 10 shots that can be covered with a dime at 25 feet , with 52 year old eyes .Get some white lithium grease , some pelgun oil , pellets and have a blast ,
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Super accurate and very light short trigger pull. No CO2 required. Has a nice weight in the hand. Mine chronographed at the advertised FPS.
Things I would have changed:Make it a little easier to load the pellet in and maybe a warning to keep people from catching their shirt in the frame while cocking it. Every person who has shot mine has done this.
What others should know:The cocking effort is not easy but how else are they going to get 400 fps from such a small pistol. You honestly can not get a better deal in a single shot pellet pistol.
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Adjustable sites and accuracy!!!!!! This may be the funnest purchase that I have made this year!
Things I would have changed:I would make the pellet loading entry JUST A TAD bit bigger
What others should know:Its kinda of quite for 410 fps!!!
4.0 4.0
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4.0 4.0
The gun looks large, but through the use of composite plastics, it weighs in at only 26 ounces. The trigger pull is light, at 2 lbs 7 oz. The German made version (P-3) will usually have a trigger pull of slightly over 1 lb, but I'm happy with 2.5 lbs, as this matches most of my cartridge pistols. Rear sight adjusts easily, but doesn't feel like it would hold zero under recoil. This may not matter however, since the gun has no recoil. Front sight is too wide for fine precision in aiming, and since the front sight is plastic, cast as part of the frame of the gun, you can't remove or adjust it. Accuracy capability of the gun is greater than my ability to hold the gun steady. Single stroke charging is not too difficult, but loading the barrel with wadcutter pellets is awkward and hard. Pointed pellets or domes are much easier to load, especially if you have large hands. I'm a leftie, so the safety is perfect for me. I cock the pistol and can push the safety to fire with my trigger finger as I'm bringing the muzzle on target; pretty much effortless. This is not a powerful pistol, but it is very accurate. You might be able to kill a mouse, but I think a rat would just be seriously annoyed if hit by it. On the other hand, if you only want to train for accuracy without the expensive cost of buying cartridges and using a real firearm, or if you are only interested in target shooting, this is certainly the pistol for you. For $35, you can't beat it.
Things I would have changed:Narrower front sight, about half the width of the current blade.
What others should know:Beeman/Marksman is never going to provide parts for this gun. You may be able to get parts from Weihrauch for the HW-40 (same gun) or the Beeman P-3 (also the same gun), but this Chinese version is basically a gun that is intended to be used until it malfunctions, then be thrown away and another purchased. And unlike the Germans, the Chinese are not big on quality control issues. I read up on reviews of the gun and I'm fairly certain I can repair any problems that develop if it malfunctions, but if you can't do this, you might want to consider a P-3 or an HW-40. The gun is an excellent air pistol, and is unbeatable for the money. It is an exact copy of the P-3/HW-40, but the finishing of the P-17 is not up to the standards of the Germans, and it will not last as long before developing problems. Also, I'm getting about .8" groups at 10 meters using Air Arms Falcon domes, but with a better sight system, I think I could improve on this. My experience has been that contrary to expectations, wadcutters don't produce better accuracy in this gun.
By Blair from USA on 2011-10-20 |
5.0 5.0
4.0 4.0
5.0 5.0
The quality construction, finish and feel of the this pistol is exceptional. One couldn't tell it only costs $35. Very accurate at around 10 yards, I had about 3/4" groupings with a scope.
Things I would have changed:The rear sight gets pressed on when the pump is in a down-stroke. Some owners have complained about the O-ring seals, but if you call Beeman, they'd send you a set of seals at no charge.
By Blair from USA on 2011-10-20 |
1.0 1.0
1.0 1.0
5.0 5.0
accuracy is great till the seals pop
Things I would have changed:seals
What others should know:save your money get a p23
4.0 4.0
5.0 5.0
5.0 5.0
Easy to cock and very accurate.
Things I would have changed:Need to correct looseness of rear sight screw. Comes loose very easily.
What others should know:The nut which is inside the gun for the Rear Sight adjustment screw, needs to be glued to the frame to ensure tightness. Rear sight screw can fallout. Watch out for the tiny spring.
1.0 1.0
1.0 1.0
5.0 5.0
accuracy weight and balance
Things I would have changed:seals blow
What others should know:I loved this gun had it a week and the seals blew . When you cocked it the air would rush out with no shot. Trashed it due to the fact that the shipping and trouble would not be worth the 35.00 paid
By Blair from USA on 2011-10-20 |
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By Francisco Lopez
Accuracy is at the top.The gun is the right size and lite.
What others should know:Need to sand air intake in cylinder or oring will be cut.