Beeman P17

It is a nice change from Crosman 1377, not having to pump. Makes it easy to shoot lots of rounds. Accurate out to forty feet. The trigger is decent and breaks clean and light. JSB Hades work like a dream.

The overall clunky design and sharp corners and edges should be smoother and more ergodynamic.Same with the loading port, it's awkward to access. And finicky, JSB hades drop right in while Crosman Premier 10.5 grains fit snug and I tried one Barracuda Green and it didnt make it out the barrel. The sights, , necer have been a fan of fiber optic sights, flimsy plastic breaks and sure will have to monkey with at some point, not if, but when.

Learn to cycle and fire safely, it's a hefty push to close it up. Also had a couple instances after firing, the lock released,. Nothing major but was caught off guard the first time. I find placing my thumb on the edge near the rear sight, provides leverage. Loading is awkward and found holding the barrel more horizontally helps het the pellets the correct angle to slip in the breech. Paid the extra to have tested and there was one odd misfire maybe, they documented one shot under 300 fps and actually did eleven test shots instead of 10. Great value, more accurate and about as loud as a Red Ryder.

It's a fun gun but its harder to cock then it should be. Not easy for children and it's very easy to pinch yourself. Bought to teach how to shoot but its not the best for that purpose. Good for adults who can handle the cocking pressure.

Lighter cocking force, some way to guard against pinching.

Has a nice feel to it. Fun little gun once you get one working right. Decent trigger.

Quality control on these is very spotty. The first one I received shot several inches to the left even after adjusting the rear sight as far right as possible, and was very hard to load pellets. Pyramid promptly replaced it, but the new one came with the rear sight screw completely out, and the nut that hold it in place loose inside the receiver. It shot one time, then would not compress air. I figured I had nothing to loose, so I disassembled it, and removed the valve, which had a lot of gunk in it, cleaned out all the factory lube and replaced it with a better lube, reassembled and it hasn't acted up since. The barrel on this one is perfect. I installed a Hawke Red Dot with 11 mm mount, and at 10 meters off a rest it will shoot great groups using 7.33 JSB pellets. RWS Basic wadcutters also do well, but are a little more difficult to load.

You really must clean the barrels on this as soon as you get it. There was a lot of junk/rust in both the ones I received. You have to be very careful cocking these or you will pinch you skit or catch you clothes between the grip frame and upper assembly. If you like tinkering with things like this there are a lot of tips and tricks to make these work better. Just a shame they come from the factory with so many problems.

Cool concept

Quality control

This is the 3rd p17 I've owned and none functioned properly. First one, purchased elsewhere, wouldn't hold pressure. Second, bought from pyramid, did the same. Took at least three pumps to get any pressure. They sent a replacement and the screw hole for the rear sights didn't have any threads. Pick another pellet gun, not this one!

For the money, you won't find better than this. Things that are great: - this gun is accurate - I left the heft and grip, and how central the center of gravity is over the grip - for a gun of any price point, trigger is very good - a very quiet report - I love a love / hate relationship with the sights; I love how visible they are - it is a great gun to shoot, but a terrible gun to reload....

To reload...this gun is pretty difficult to cycle / pump and finding the barrel to insert a pellet can be difficult - the sights don't always respond to adjustment - you turn the screws and sometimes nothing happens; a hard push from your thumb may be needed to actually get them to move. Also, I think the directions in the manual as to that happens to point of impact is backwards,

This gun is about $50, and for that price it is a great bargain. Not suitable for kids for how hard it is to cock and load. However, it is a great gun for backyard plinking.

VERY NICE PISTOL, VERY ACCURATE FEELS GOOD IN THE HAND.

LIKE IT AS IS NO COMPLAINTS

NO CO2 REQUIRED! SHOOTS ALLOY PELLETS REALLY FAST, I DONT KNOW HOW FAST SINCE I DONT HAVE A CHRONY, BUT WHEN THEY GO THROUGH HARD METAL ITEMS I WOULD SAY THEY ARE MOVING PRETTY FAST

Very nice ergonomics. Hefty but not heavy, solid, no rattle. Came at 415 FPS on 7 grain pellets. Quiet and almost perfectly recoilless. Open sight is easy to adjust, even with your fingernails. Cocking it is a good workout! Haha. Dove rails too. All in all, very good backyard fun! And hits very hard, so be careful!

I don't know how, but it would be great to be able to cock it without worrying about pinching your fingers. While it's a hard cock, I'd do it with more power if I was worried about getting pinched. Loading the pellets is a bit hard, since the breech end of the barrel is in a tight spot. Not very easy to see what you're doing, but you get used to it with practice.

According to the manual, the cocking effort is 28 lbs. It's definitely not the worst, but worrying about pinching yourself and small lever make it tricky. I struggled a bit hitting a 3 cm target at about 6 meters, though I feel inclined to blame these cheap pellets for it rather than the P17. Maybe getting more used to it will help, too.

Sights, grip, trigger

Seems to be pretty pellet picky

I've seen some people with these that shoot pretty well, the pistol I received is pretty picky and won't group well past 10 yards. At this price point I still highly recommend this for close range practice.

What a fun gun! Accurate, great trigger, perfect weight and balance. I understand why so many folks really love this gun. For the price, even twice the price, this gun is a bargain.

I dislike the auto-safety. Annoying and unnecessary.

It is surprising how much oomph it takes to cock. Doable, but not for the ladies or kids. And loading it takes some practice.

The trigger is superb, it’s also fairly accurate, but the Crosman 1377 holds an advantage for me, perhaps because I’ve been shooting them for over 20 years. It’s a lot lighter and more compact than other pistols I’ve shot with comparable accuracy. The price is really nice too, even these days. I bought it for shots at around 10 yards at mice and other pests, so far it works really well with hollow points.

I have big hands/ fingers and it took a long time to be able to somewhat proficiently load pellets. Also, watch a video on how to work the pump, or you could get a painful pinch.

The loading method is very different, and takes time to get used to, but it’s definitely not a deal breaker.