Page 6 - Seneca Aspen Reviews

I think it is essential to be able to re-charge while away from home/base camp, so the ability to top-off the pressure by pumping is a great selling point. The scope was easily zeroed and sharp. The trigger is a light, crisp break. All in all a nice package.

I would buy a larger caliber, if I was doing it over again.

If you regularly use the pressure port, it is in a rather inconvenient location. This is good for protecting it, but makes it a chore to re-charge with a hose.

This is my first PCP air rifle and it's been a great experience. I wanted to get into PCP air rifles but I did not initially want to spend all the money in getting a tank or compressor just to experience the PCP culture. I purchased a Leapers UTG 4-16x44 scope and zeroed it in. Once I repositioned my scope and rezeroed again, it has been super accurate. I came from using a Benjamin Vaporizer break barrel so this Aspen is like a dream! I have played with the PSI and found that starting at 3200 PSI, I can get a full 10 accurate rounds then pump for 35-40 times to get me back to 3200 PSI. The pellets I was recommended by Pyramyd Air was the H&N Baracuda Match domed .22 21.14gr. This is the pellet I used to zero in my scope. Love the pellet! Great for hunting/pest control. A little on the expensive side for plinking metal or paper targets.

Lower the price and not include the scope.

Experiment with the high and low. At first, I thought everything should be on high. I actually like the low setting for plinking and still great for up to 50 yards for small pests. When I need to change it to the high setting, I just use one mildot above the mildot I used for low setting. Make sure if you upgrade your scope and the scope mounts are picatinny, get the UTG dovetail to picatinny snap in adapters. For plinking, I use the Crosman Premier domed .22 14.3gr. and just sight in using the 2nd mildot up on the crosshair (since I zeroed in using the heavier Baracuda Match). I use small spinning steel targets (quarter size) at 35 yards... very happy with the accuracy. !00% accuracy for the 10 shots.

All in one product - quiet. Pumping isn't too hard - a bit easier than using my hand pump and way more convenient. Seems to be very accurate.

Include better scope or price the gun without a scope added.

Gun is a bit heavier than expected and is quieter than expected - love the bolt action - but it takes (way) more pumping than previously reported - took me at least 130 pumps to initially get from 1500psi to 3300psi - think mine has a slow air leak (lost 500 psi in 10 days), need to have it checked out. I tend to shoot 3-5 shots, then pump 20 times or more to get back to 3300psi - try to keep 2600-3300psi shooting range. Scope is ok at best.

I've had my Seneca for a few weeks now and it is the best air rifle I have ever owned. It is accurate enough that I have managed to score dime sized groups at 25 yards. The self contained pump allows me to keep the air pressure in the "sweet spot" for accuracy. The included scope is sufficiently accurate for close-range plinking and seems to hold zero very well, although I may be in the market for something with a little more magnification when squirrel season rolls around.

The only shortfall I can find with the design of this rifle is the pump handle. When I go to lock it in, there is a little side to side slack in the handle which allows the handle to move around and release the handle causing it to pop out and if you are carrying the rifle by the handle, the stock could hit the ground. I fixed mine by attaching one of those silicone "bumpers" that you put on kitchen cabinet doors to the inside of the stock just below the lock button. This has completely solved that problem. It is for this design oversight that I gave the Seneca Aspen 4 stars instead of 5.

I think this rifle is an excellent first introduction into PCP air-gunning and my experience with Pyramid Air assures that I will be a repeat customer.

Trigger is great. It is rare that I don't need to do anything to improve one. Hefty gun, doesn't feel flimsy or cheap.

Magazine is quirky, can't be topped off. I contacted Pyramid and got no help with it. You should have a spare.

Pumping effort is significant, but with a little practice is very manageable. I'm 66 with recent shoulder repair, never had great upper body strength, and it's no problem.

why didn't they think of this earlier? It's awesome, accurate, and a ton of fun. mine is in 22 but I'm going to order one for my daughter in 25. accuracy really surprised me. JSB extras in one hole at 25 yds.

use a male quick attachment for filling the probe sucks.

Great for introducing new shooters to PCP. Handy for those prepper people. order an extra magazine with it you'll need it.

This is my first experience with a pcp air rifle and i can say switching from break barrels to pcp is the best upgrade i could have made when it comes to performance and accuracy. This rifle is great because it has a built in pump. That is the reason i decided to make the jump because i didn't have the money to buy a good pcp and a tank and the thought of the hassle to carry it around was a turn off. I found that jsb rs pellets do nickle sizes holes at 35 yards on a bench easy. And im no marksman but on high power this rifle can reach out and take doves no problem 91 yards away(it took me 6 shots but i finally hit him) Im confident that once i get better this rifle could do 5inch groups at 100 with the right conditions maybe smaller.

I had the rifle for 2 and 1/2 weeks and I started having problems with it about 2 weeks into having it I noticed that when I tried to pump it sometimes it wouldn't let me pull the pumping arm up it felt like something was sucking the plunger back down and I couldn't figure out what it was I had to let out all the air out of the tank and start completely empty and then the pump was back to normal and then about two and a half weeks into having The Airgun I went to pump it went to raise the arm and all I heard was a snap the pumping arm broke where it meets the Piston to pump so now I have to send it back and wait a long time it's so disappointing knowing that it broke so easily and I don't even use it everyday I use it only on Saturdays maybe for 3 hours.

If you want to make the jump from springers to PCP rifles this is the gun to do it for beginners you have so many ways to adjust the power and the hammer tension the combinations are endless and how many pellets were accurate through this gun I'm surprised it's not picky even with my bad experience with a breaking I still am getting a replacement of the same rifle I wouldn't trade it for a different one.

Accuracy is excellent. 1" group at 30 yards was simple. A good shooter would no doubt do better. I put on a Nikon scope. Light weight. Pumping is easy - IF you do it correctly. First, realize that the pump needs to break in (or so it seemed to me). Probably I had to do 150 pumps before it started to feel good. Second, use long smooth complete strokes, they don't have to be very fast, just steady. 80 pumps from empty to full pressure (3000 psi is as far as I wanted to go). 10 rounds then 35 - 40 pumps to recharge, shooting on low power.

Pellets jam! I have had pellets from the magazine get jammed four times. Nothing unusual was happening, just it was not possible to push the reload handle home. The pellet was jammed so that the magazine could not be removed and the gun could not fire. By wiggling the magazine, and using a cleaning rod to push the pellet back, I was able to free it - on three occasions. On the fourth occasion - it was really stuck. I tried everything I could think of, but could not get it out. Eventually, the small, thin piece of metal connecting the cocking handle to the piston broke - metal fatigue - I was not being a gorilla. It's not even steel, it's a cheap metal alloy. It should be stainless steel. Now the gun is a brick and I am sending it back for repair. I've only had it two weeks. I think it is a design flaw that the pellets jam and are not easily removed, and it is a manufacturing flaw that they used cheap alloy instead of stainless steel for the part that broke.

Buy an extended warranty if you get this gun. The pump handle is supposed to lock into place and you are supposed to be able to carry it using the handle. Don't! The lock is not reliable. If you do carry like this, then always double/triple check the lock is really secure, otherwise you will drop the body of the gun as soon as you pick it up by the handle. I still really like it - it's my first PCP.

Bang for the buck.

Make it so you could hook a bottle up to it while you shot.

It take around 150 pumps to fill this rifle from zero psi not 60-70. From 3000 psi it takes 60-70 to reach max pressure and I think some are misunderstanding that. You get about 600 psi for every 20 strokes.

It has a very nice action, smoother than my Marauder. The trigger is crisp and consistant. It grouped JSB 14.3 pellets into a half inch at 40 yards.

It needs a bag of O-rings and instructions on how to break the rifle down when it locks up. Mine locked up in the first eight days.

The shooter needs to be tall and fairly strong to pump this rifle up. Mine required 6 pumps per shot on average ( in .22 cal.). Out of the box it failed to decock and it did not hold a charge. Pyramid refunded my money and even covered the return shipping.

I purchaced the .22 caliber version. The accuracy with this rifle is outstanding. I am shooting RWS Superpoint 14.5 gr. It just happened to be the first tin I started with. I never had to try another brand. I also actually used the scope that it came with and once sighted in I was putting all ten shots pretty much in the same hole. Very impressed. Target was set at 25 yards. Now manually pumping from empty was a chore. I counted 110 pumps to just about to the 3600 mark. i have read that around 60 pumps was the number. not mine. i used full strokes and slightly paused at each end of the pump stroke. Once full, 10 to 15 pumps after 10 shots kept it up nicely. I found an easier way to pump it, was easier for me. I held the rifle in one hand and the pump in the other and acted like I was using pruning shears. It was an even amount of work for both arms and felt easier to do. I'm very glad I bought it. I have 14 air rifles now and by far this is easily the most accurate in low power mode.

I like wooden stocks. If this platform somehow came installed in a wooden stock I would buy another one.

Very accurate, pretty lightweight, easy to shoot. Here is an easy fix that I did to quiet the hollow stock. I removed the butt plate and stuffed the cavity with some foam rubber packing from a fragile item that I received in the mail. It worked perfect. No hollow sound any more... It really zips in high power but my grouping changed a little and I had to pump more often. I didn't try any different pellets yet in the high power mode. Still smiling from the accuracy in low power mode. This rifle is a good way to start into the PCP market without all the extra expences...

you no longer have to worry about running out of air, just pump it up. I would get 9 very accurate shots when pumped to 3000 psi, When it hits 2000, things drop off fast. I can regulate the air, for my 22 cal. it is about 3-4 pumps to keep it around 3000 psi. and on high setting. After each shot when testing pellet drop for distance, I shot ten shots at 5 - 50 yards in 5 yard increments. 5 yds about 7/8 low, the rest under 1/4 inch of center until 40 yards which was 5/8 low, 45 3/4 low, then 50 was 2 inches low. very accurate with jsb jumbo heavy 18 gr. With no pump needed and able to get 1/2 groups or less at 35 yards. i had a 3 inch group at 100 without an exact aim point. Has a great price point, this is a winner.

i don't know if there could be something changed that would work. I would like to see a big bore like a 357 or 45. set up the same way. we all would like it to be less bulky, lighter, and more air storage but compromises must be made. The one thing i would like to see changed is the stock, I need to add a comb riser to it and i have a pouch on it to carry the extra mags. The stock is wider and taller that your typical stock so when a comb riser is added it is about 3 inches wide.

being low noise is one of the most important things to me for hunting., it does have a ping sound but really is quiet. doesn't spook animals when you shoot.

So far so good, shoots well, easy to pump to pressure and to keep at a good pressure. This was a great way to move into PCP! Slightly louder than my NP Trail.

I'm not sure I would change anything. I like this airgun!

I'd have bought an extra mag or 2, probably will next time I order pellets.

Price is good this was my first PCP

The magazine is cheap made it could be better. I don't know if it's the rifle or the magazine. But it's picky on what pellets will work. It jammed on me the 3rd shot so that's a concern I have but will give it a chance with a different type of pellets

Holds pressure well.

easy to recharge , fun, exciting,every thing I expected

I bought this rifle because I wanted to get into PCPs but didn't want to have to get a separate pump or tank.

I would have them mfg or PA lube up the pump real good before they sent it out. It would pump up very good when I first got it and had to put way more than the manual said to to get it to work and move easily.

The catalog that PA sent along with the gun stated that you get 2 magazines with the rifle but I only received one.

The price is excellent for a multi shot pcp. I really like the rotary magazine and on board/built in pump.

Getting a PCP air rifle for $400! Extremely accurate! Hits hard, tearing through both sides of a vegitable can at 60 yards like it was paper! Extremely quiet.. I can shoot in my back yard

Nothing.

It takes about 60 pumps to get it to max pressure. I usually shot a 10 round mag and then pump the gun back up to max pressure. Takes about 20 to 25 pumps. Not hard to pump at all.

Just about everything. Extremely accurate - I was shooting dime groups at 25 yards on the second magazine without pumping between shots. I'm sure it will get similar groups at longer ranges as well. Very smooth cocking, very nice trigger by default. Good overall ergonomics, quite quiet. PCP accuracy and firing, but not tethered to a tank or compressor. The pump is very smooth and easy to use, even when approaching the maximum pressure. Using RWS Hobby 11.9gr pellets and four pumps between each shot, starting at 2.5k PSI, I averaged 915 FPS with a deviation of 7.05 FPS, which is 0.8%. Barracuda Match 21.14gr pellets averaged 780 FPS starting at 3k PSI and no pumping, for an average energy of 28.55 FPE. It looks like 4-5 pumps between shots will maintain an extremely consistent FPS. This was the 22 caliber model on the high power setting and factory trigger and hammer-spring settings.

One complaint - the latch for the pump doesn't positively engage. It is rather easy for it to slip into the unlocked position and the pump arm no longer be secured. I picked it up by the pump handle once and was surprised when instead of lifting the rifle, the pump arm sprang up. The rifle is definitely on the heavier side, but given it has a built-in pump, I do not think that can be fairly considered as a negative.

The stock scope rings are not tall enough for a 40mm objective scope. I purchased tall scope rings to mount my 4x16 40mm UTG EZ-TAP scope. Be particularly careful if the adjustment dials will be sitting above the magazine port to ensure you have sufficient clearance. Great rifle, very happy with it and I am looking forward to collecting lots of data finding the best pellet, power setting, and pressure for maximum accuracy. Just about as much portability as a break-barrel, like my Gamo Swarm, trading off the need to pump it up first for accuracy and shot follow-up. This makes a perfect transition/intermediate rifle between a break-barrel and a traditional PCP, which will always be tethered to a power supply. With the hollow butt stock, it will also probably make a great survival rifle for those looking for one. Grab rifle and pellets and you're good to go.

Accuracy is fantastic, have only put about 40 shots thru mine so far but very impressed with group size. H & N Baracuda Match are very good in mine. Pumping is very smooth and quiet. It's not hard to pump once you get the technique down.As others have said, after a few shots put a few pumps in to maintain a constant pressure.I don't have a decibel meter but noise level doesn't seem bad to me. Trigger is very good right out of the box. I may play with adjusting it after some more shooting.Start with about 2600 psi, this seems to be the sweet spot for velocity and accuracy.(Read Tom Gaylord's articles) This is my first PCP and I would recommend it to anyone. I bought the .22 caliber.

Maybe a little texture on the stock to improve the feel.

Maybe upgrade to a better scope to take advantage of the accuracy. Try several different pellets to see what works best in your gun. The spring popped out of place in the mag after the first 10 shots but I found a fix on the GTA forum and it worked flawlessly after that. Word is that Gauntlet mags also work in this gun.