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|Max Velocity||1400 fps|
|Cocking Effort||30 lbs|
|Suggested for||Small game hunting/plinking|
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Things I liked: Very accurate, very stable to shoot, quietest to shoot of my 5 .22 cal air rifles. Weight is good, and stock fits me nicely. I replaced the trigger spring (which VOIDS warranty!!!) with the M-Carbo Benjamin Trail NP2 Pro Trigger Upgrade Kit, and polished a few surfaces while changing out spring. I replaced scope with Crosman Centerpoint Game Tag Scope 3-12 x 44, which has excellent elevation ladder for distance shooting. I have shot sparrows at 75 yards with this rifle. Currently I shoot JSB EXACT JUMBO DIABOLO 15.89 gr pellets. They seem to fit my needs for small game & pest control. I have had this Summit now for 4 years, shooting daily, and no complaints!
Things I would have changed: As with all Crosman/Benjamin products, trigger needs to be smoother! The 3 gunstock screws, 2 on each side front of stock, 1 back of trigger guard, come loose after shooting, causing shot's to drift! Good lock or star washers, or a self locking screw (screw with a nylon strip running down side of threads) or even mold locking nuts into stock would be helpful.
What others should know: I shot this rifle for 4 months before I changed scope. Scope that came with Summit was decent, but not sufficient for long distance (75-100yds). The shrouded barrel baffle system really works! It is very quiet to shoot with the 15.89 pellets I shoot. It is not as sensitive to "hold" as are other rifles I own. It shoots well hand held, or from a rest. YOU MUST CHECK ALL MOUNTING SCREWS EACH TIME YOU SHOOT!!! Or, like me, use blue Locktite on the 3 stock screws. The only time it drifted from zero was when a screw had come loose.
Things I liked: The size is very good. The weight is great.
Things I would have changed: The front sling swivel is too small. Needs to be wider. Will my fit a leather target sling.
What others should know: None
Things I liked: Lite weight just can't get it to stay accurate
Things I would have changed: Screws won't stay tight
What others should know: Overall not a bad gun for back yard plicking it likes crossman destroyer pellets
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How do I tighten up the sight on this gun mine is loose?
What is the difference between the summit and the trail or even golden shockey editions are the internals and barrel the same
All the NP2 guns have the same powerplant as far as I know. They have a new NP2 Elite that may be different in some way, but I doubt it, and if it is I doubt it matters. The suppressors can be different, they have three different ones that I know of, excluding false ones. The original one has a simple shroud that's the same round size to the muzzle. Then they have one with a slightly bigger muzzle end, and one with a bigger end. Since the most of the noise does not come from the muzzle, and the orig one works very well, I think anything other than the original one is a waste of time. The orig one also comes apart very easily for cleaning, repair or mods. Like the barrel crown is often nasty, and some have damage at the muzzle, so you may to fix it. Not sure if the others suppressors can be removed at all, which would be a very bad thing imo. The barrel itself is no doubt the exact same, but if the suppressor cannot be removed then the barrel may not have a threaded tip like the original. So I'd just get the cheapest one you like the looks of. I like the looks of the original Trail most. Probably more because it's wood rather than design, but hopefully some day they'll come out with a nicer wood stock. There's also the Dove or Picatinny rail versions. I prefer Dove, which is usually cheaper, but the Pic is super popular. All the parts can be bought from Crosman. I've bought many Crosman guns that were on sale for super cheap, but not exactly what I wanted, then I simply bought the parts to make it what I wanted. Just price the parts first because a new wood Trail stock was more than I paid for my complete and brand new wood Trail gun. Most Crosman parts are cheap, that one was not...
The differences are mostly visual, I believe the NP2 power plant is the same, being that they are the same in fps. Which one you choose would be personal preference. Get a chronograph. Woodys World.
I cannot zero the scope because I ran out left adjustment in scope dial. Does anyone have a suggestion?
Brad had the correct idea because your problem is the barrel is pointing downwards, aka "barrel droop" which pretty much all break barrel guns have. Some are so bad you end up with your problem, but even if not as bad it should still be corrected... The fix is to adjust the scope so it points in the same downward direction. The adj mounts Brad mentioned are expensive, but if you do I suggest you get a Pictanny, not Weaver b/c your rings are Pict and may not fit a Weav adapter. I suggest a free alternative instead, called shimming the scope. Leaving the scope mounts attached to the gun, remove their caps and lift the scope out. Now place some thin sheet material on the saddle of the rear mount so when the scope is reinstalled it'll be tilted pointing downward a bit. I use plastic sheet to shim the scope, like plastic cut from a soda bottle. You cut the plastic so it fits neatly between the scope and mount, generally covering only about 2/3rds of the bottom mount since having material on the sides will do nothing to raise it up, but may crush the scope since there is no side to side adjustment. How much shim you add depends on the gun and how far you want it sighted in at. Generally you can eyeball the barrel and scope to get it close, maybe use a yardstick etc to help. If not then just put one shim in and see how it works. You do not want to adjust the W/E screws as far as you did, and ideally you want the adj in the the center. You can eyeball center by looking at the inner tube thru the front lens and adj until it looks centered. Centered is where the lenses are in optical alignment and the scope works best there. There's also a spring in there holding your setting and the further out you unscrew the W and /or E screws the less tension the spring provides. When you adj out like you did it means the setting can move when fired. So set to the center or at least just adj the W/E screws to about the middle which is fairly close. Now clamp the scope back down and see where the pellet hits. If it still hits too low then add another shim. Continue playing with shim thickness until you're close to on target, specifically elevation. Once it's kinda close you can then use the W/E screws to dial it in, but if you have to adj W/E more than 1/2 turn from center I'd say you need to adj shim instead. I'd prefer less than 1/4 turn but up to you. Fyi it's better that you use a little too much shim and have to adj down than the other way around, due to the aformentioned spring tension. You can also use Aluminum from a soda can but plastic is best imo b/c it's easier to cut, work with and comes in a variety of thicknesses. If you're also off target left/right you can simply move the shim to one side to compensate. chevota at hotmail if you want or need more info. I also have a variety of other info to make the gun work better, which I share freely, to anyone fyi. For example; I believe most guns like this need a new main seal first thing, but there's other stuff they can bennie from as well.
Your problem appears to be in the assembly and mounting of the scope. Run the scope dial all way out to the right. Do the elevation dial the same. Take the scope off, separate the rings, examine every piece carefully in close detail. Reassemble the scope rings on the scope tube, mount onto the rail. Move the dials half way back to the center positions. Begin shooting at a large box with a target attached, from 15 feet away. Check point of aim against point of impact. Make adjustments to both dials according to aim and impact points. Move further back from the box, if your impact shots are hitting the bos, continue until you have reached a desired distance you want the air rifle cited in. Use of a .22 caliber, 14.3 grain pellet or .177 caliber, 10.5 grain pellet. Do not start with a pellet too heavy. Woodys World.
Or upgrade to a better scope ? either or ?.
Get a drooper weaver mount from UTG
|Max Velocity||1400 fps|