Hatsan Torpedo 105X Vortex Air Rifle

Nothing but the sights. Too many problems with virtually everything on this boat anchor!! STAY AWAY!!!

Virtually everything but the sights.

Stay away.

NOTHING

do away with the brass button it quit releasing after about 30 shots, tied 2 levers down inside groove on bottom of stock so we could keep shooting. do away with the button, it quit releasing after about 30 shots, had to tie 2 levers down in slot on bottom of stock to keep shooting. accuracy was terrible best group at 20 yds 2.5 in worst group at 20 yds 4 in. this is pathetic. these groups were shot after breakin and we confirmed no dieseling by shooting 20 shots over chronograph. and a message to all you arm chair experts who will think it was my technique, I hv been shooting off bench for at least 35 yrs, c.f. and r.f., and I know lots of hold techniques. I tried everything I could think of including loose artillery hold and nothing helped. this rifle was returned to Pyramid Air and I bought a Talon SS in 22. I know it is not fair to compare and piston gun to a pcp but so far I love the Talon. I will post a review after I hv done more testing

I have a Gamo Accu in 177 that is accurate, trigger is acceptable and I have had no problems with it. It may be a little slower but at least you can hit what you're shooting at. if you want a underlever in this price range seriously consider the Gamo over the Hatsan. I purchased my Gamo at Pyramid Air.

Power with accuracy as expected. I also have a hatsan 125 vortex in .22. This rifle also in .22. Comparatively they're pretty close with a 10 dollar difference in between the models I have, only the power plant and barrel systems being different. Doing some research hatsan has either 5 or 6 variants of the vortex powerplants. This particular configuration they've underrated greatly. I don't have a chrony but shooting lighter pellets they make that low whistle sound my 125 does, breaking in that mid 850's low 900 fps range. Impressive since it's rated 800fps. Though my 125 hits a little harder. The stock doesn't have the ambi cheek rest, the nice adjustable buttpad or the extra bit of checkering , I gain swivel studs and a innovative bolt/free floating styles barrel design that works well. Optimum compromise between the two rifles in price.my 125 dropped a big 35 pound male coon with ease and this one has the ability to drop the other two smaller ones and I intend on it.

The retaining pin that holds the cocking arm in place sometimes unhindges from the recoil this rifle produces, maybe put a extra coil or two on the spring to tighten up the small amount of play maybe? And a ambidextrous stock!! I'm a south paw and I knew it was righty when buying it BUT it's be nice to have it across all your product line. Though I get by just fine so don't be discouraged about it you Lefties. The hindge pin unlatching is why I have 4 stars on the overall rating.

For other hatsan owners out there I found the trigger on my particular rifle way, way lighter than the one on my 125. Whether hatsan made it as so or I got lucky with a good one I figured it's worth mentioning. I'd say my trigger is easily two pounds while the other rifles is as advertised 3 pounds. Don't let the free floating barrel design discourage you as it securely bolts shut. In my own stupidity I set the rifle in a way where it slid off the wall and landed bolt first on my concrete floor. My rifle merely laughed and hasn't been hurt what so ever that and a accidental dry fire all have been shrugged off. Very well built. The design also allows you to have a pellet loaded and ready to go without cocking the rifle for you hunters. No more pellet fumbling, cock and shoot. It LOVES H&N ammo. No surprise since I learned hatsan now distributes it. Didn't like any jsb ammo EXCEPT the monsters which have a 2 inch higher poi over any other pellet at 20 yards which I found very odd.

Under lever cocking, weaver type rail

Weight, and length, both the stock length, and barrel length. This is a heavy gun, reminds me of what they used to call a wall gun, you didnt carry it, you shot it from a mount on the wall! Lol. It would be better in a carbine size I think

Unless you shoot from a bench, this probably is not the rifle you want. Way too heavy, and long to carry in the field
For most people, unless you want a gun, club, combo

If the 105x Vortex rifle that I received is indicative of the rest of the Hatsan product line, then Benjamin, Gamo and other more well known names in American airgunner circles better get their R and D departments together for an emergency meeting and take notes...The energy that this beast puts on target, and I do mean ON TARGET, makes my other .22 cal air rifles seem like kids toys,INCLUDING my Benjamin Discovery in .22 cal...stock...Without a pump,or tank, my new 105x Vortex is averaging 885ish fps with CPHP 14.3 grain pellets after about 750 pellets downrange to break it in...For about $200.00...HEY !... Mr, Benjamin, Gamo, etc.. TAKE NOTE !... when I find a product that performs FAR beyond the manufacturers specific claims for power, accuracy, and overall quality... I tell others...The same goes for products and manufacturers that fall short of claims...FAR short of their claims Mr. Benjamin.

My only area of concern on this product is that with the cocking force necessary to set the Vortex ram with a 4x16x40 CP scope on the top... I have found that I need to be aware of my rifle holding hands finger placement when pulling the underlever to set the ram...My pinky finger slipped into the trigger guard, and onto the trigger twice and I caused the trigger to release the sear when I simultaniously hit the underlever release button....If you think that it's difficult to cock this beast, try holding that force back when it unexpectedly pulls your arm back the other way !...Be sure to lock the cocking lever into it's retainer too...Failure to do so will cause it to drop down when the rifle is fired, not an uncommon problem for underlevers...Maybe a longer retaining pin would work better ?

YES, this rifle is heavy...YES, this rifle has a heavy pull to set the Vortex ram,,,energy in, energy out...YES this rifle is accurate...Do you want quality steel, or do you prefer plastic and aluminium ?...Do you want serious tools, or do you want toys ?...on that note... NO...I will probably NOT purchase another Benjamin, or other well known name in air rifles if they continue to make products that fall SOOO short of stated numbers, and build quality....Side note, spare parts ARE available, and more are becoming available at Hatsan USA.