John Wayne Lil’ Duke BB gun with scope: Part 3

by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier

Lil Duke and scope
John Wayne Lil’ Duke BB gun with scope.

Part 1
Part 2

This report covers:

Will it shoot Marksman BBs?
The test
Air Venturi BBs
Hornady Black Diamond
Avanti Match Grade Precision Ground Shot
Discussion
Smart Shot
Old Dust Devils
Dust Devil Mk 2
Summary

Today we look at the accuracy of the John Wayne Lil’ Duke BB gun with scope. I will tell you right now that I read some online reviews and was thinking the gun might not be too accurate. The two reviews that are on the Pyramyd Air website don’t say much at all. Well, I’m telling you that the gun I have is quite accurate for a conventional BB gun. You just have to use the ammo it likes. Let’s get started.

Will it shoot Marksman BBs?

Somewhere online I read where one person was shooting his Lil’ Duke with Marksman BBs. He called them Marksman Golden BBs, which to my knowledge Marksman never made, so I wonder if was right about what he was saying. Anyway, I tried dropping a current Marksman BB in the Lil’ Duke’s bore and it didn’t fit.

Now, we know that the current crop of Marksman BBs measure 0.1765-inches in diameter — so they are a true .177 BB, rather than the 0.171-0.173-inches that all other steel BBs measure. That makes them too large for almost all BB guns on this planet.

Lil Duke muzzle
As you can see, the Lil’ Duke bore is too small for the current Marksman BBs.

The test

Today I will shoot the Lil’ Duke from 5 meters using the open sights. The gun came with a scope that I will mount and test in a future report, so this isn’t the last you will hear of it.

I’m shooting off the UTG Monopod while seated. I’m shooting 5-shot groups today so I can test more BBs.

Air Venturi BBs

Since the Lil’ Duke is from Air Venturi, I’ll start testing with their BBs — the Air Venturi Steel BB. Theirs that they offer now are zinc-plated but the ones I have are plated with copper. They used to offer them both ways but the copper ones are no longer stocked. I doubt it makes any difference to accuracy.

Five Air Venturi BBs went into 1.644-inches at 5 meters. It’s a very horizontal group and none of the shots were called as pulls, so I have to say that this isn’t the BB I recommend for this gun. Of course I didn’t know that at this point in the test.

Lil Duke Air Venturi BB target
The Lil’Duke put 5 Air Venturi Steel BBs into this horizontal group that measures 1.644-inches between centers at 5 meters.

Hornady Black Diamond

Next I tried 5 Hornady Black Diamonds. They are often the most accurate steel BBs in a test, and the Lil’ Duke seems to like them. The more circular 5-shot group measures 1.005-inches between centers.

Lil Duke Hornady
The Lil’ Duke put 5 Hornady Black Diamond BBs in 1.005-inches at five meters.

Avanti Match Grade Precision Ground Shot

Now that the standard premium steel BBs had been tested, it was time to try several non-standard BBs. The first was the Avanti Match Grade Precision Ground Shot that is made only for the Daisy 499 — the world’s most accurate BB gun. The Lil’ Duke did not care for this BB — putting 5 into 1.136-inches at five meters.

Lil Duke Avanti Precision Shot
Five Avanti Precision Ground Shot went into 1.136-inches at 5 meters. I know it looks like only 4 holes but there are 5 BBs in this group. I was unable to tell even from the back of the target paper where the other BB went, but it’s in there somewhere.

Discussion

With the buildup I gave at the beginning of this report I bet you are wondering where are the targets to support it. The Hornady target was a good one but none of the rest of them have been. Well, here it comes.

Smart Shot

Now it was time for the lead BBs from H&N — the Smart Shot. With the extra power this gun has the heavier Smart Shot are at no disadvantage. And I was unprepared for what they could do. The first two went into the same hole. I guess that shook me up a little because shot three was a called pull that went lower. But not very much lower! Shot four went back through the first two BB holes and shot 5 was a second called pull that went up and to the right. In the end I had a five-meter five-shot group that measured 0.763 inches. Three of those BBs are in 0.119-inches! I know that’s a fluke, but even looking at all five shots this is still a great group. 

Lil Duke Smart Shot
Five Smart Shot went into 0.763-inches at 5 meters, with three of them in 0.119-inches.

Old Dust Devils

Here we go! I told you I was going to test the new Air Venturi Dust Devil BBs in any BB gun I test. I knew that you would also ask me what the old ones did, so I tested them first. Five old Dust Devils went into 1.567-inches at 5 meters. It’s not the largest group of this test and yes, I see the three together in the center, but this time I was not as impressed. Maybe I should have been, but those three felt like more of a coincidence than something that was intentional. Perhaps because it was getting toward the end of the test I was relaxing a little more than I should have been.

Lil Duke old Dust Devils
Five of the old Dust Devils went into this group that measures 1.567-inches at 5 meters. It’s not the worst group of the test, but it’s close!

Dust Devil Mk 2

Now it was time to try the new Dust Devil Mark 2 BBs. Five went into 1.348-inches at 5 meters. That’s a little better than the old ones, but with only one group of each it’s too soon to say much more. At least we know they work, and in the Lil’ Duke they beat at least one premium steel BB.

Lil Duke new Dust Devils
Five new Dust Devil BBs went into 1.348-inches.

Did I try harder with the new Dust Devils than I did with the old? Who can say? That’s bias and it’s why real tests are structured to eliminate any possibility of it happening. 

But one thing I did not do is shoot with the Lil’ Duke in a vise. I know many of you think that is the right way to test, but in my experience it isn’t. As long as the shooter knows how to shoot, the vise can often be beaten — especially when the gun is a springer. I have done it enough times to know for sure. I even did it when the pneumatic AirForce Edge was being developed.

Besides — the Lil’ Duke is gravity feed, so you can’t shoot more than one shot in a vise before the muzzle of the gun has to be elevated to feed the next BB. So, there!

Summary

This test did not turn out the way I expected. This Lil’ Duke is a small but powerful BB gun that’s also quite accurate with certain BBs. And I shot it for this test with open sights. Next time I will mount the scope and try again. Will it do even better? We shall see.

66 thoughts on “John Wayne Lil’ Duke BB gun with scope: Part 3


  1. BB,

    Interesting on the Marksman bb’s being oversized. From what you say, they will jam in most anything that they would get put in. That is a pretty huge blunder on the maker’s part. Curious, I went to the PA site and looked at the reviews. Sure enough, of 68 reviews,.. oversize and jamming issues were mentioned in the first 6 or so reviews. They had a bunch of 5 star ratings though,… so go figure. If I shot bb’s in a variety of air guns,.. I would avoid these like the plague.

    Looking forwards to the test with the scope.

    Chris


    • Chris,

      Those Marksmans would likely work in a regular .177 airgun. Of course the twist rate is all wrong for them. They would probably like 1:45 much better. It is wrong for pellets also. They prefer around 1:26. Now the “slugs” like 1:17 until they reach a certain length/diameter ratio.. Then they prefer 1:10 – 1:14.


      • RR,

        Is this twist rate information that you have gathered here and there? or is the information to be found all in one place/site? 1:17 is the most common airgun twist, if not mistaken.

        Chris


        • Chris,

          There is an old method to compute the ‘ideal’ twist ratio called the Greenhill Formula that I found who knows where many years ago. It states that the ideal ratio is; T = k * dia *dia / length. The value of K changes with the projectile speed but should be 150 for our use.

          I used a 22 pellet that happened to be on my desk – JSB probably – as an example; its dimensions compute to an ideal twist rate of 1:15.7 so the standard rifling seems OK.

          That said, all of this is only academic. The drag effects introduced by the shape of the pellet should be much more influential than the rotational speed.

          Henry


          • Henry,

            Are you to use metric units or decimals of inches for the dia. and length? I suppose I could measure a few pellets and figure it out,, but I’m feeling a bit groggy at the moment, so I thought I’d just ask.


            • Edlee,

              The constant I listed (150) is for measurements in inches. I used the reading from a digital caliper for a quick calculation. Dividing it by 25.4 the constant becomes 4.572 and would calculate the twist ration with data in mm.

              Keep in mind, formulas like this are just approximations, but IMO good enough for most purposes.

              Henry


          • Henry,

            Thank you,… I looked it (Geenhill Formula) up and found some additional info. on a few sites. The question next is could a projectile be reverse engineered to match a given twist? Well,.. on the other hand,.. that is what we all do with the air rifles we ourselves have (with a twist we can’t change) when we try to find the “perfect” pellet. LOL! 😉 No, it is not easy and for sure a far cry from being definitive.

            Chris


            • ChrisUSA,

              Do however remember we can change muzzle velocity, within limits, which changes the revolutions per unit time. The Greenhill Formula was developed for bullets/slugs not really for Diabolo Pellets. Some feel it is close enough…I think the variation in pellet designs is enough to make the GF much less worthwhile for pellets.

              Maybe we will see more information published and tested for validity in the near future…I’ll not hold my breath!

              shootski


              • Shootski,

                Well, from what I have seen,… HAM seems to be at the forefront on testing and publishing consumer (consumed) data. Maybe not the best, but the best I have seen thus far without turning over every new rock in the river. Lot’s of new rocks in the river these days!

                Chris



                  • Geo,

                    I am required to put out 2 applications a week to stay in “good graces” with unemployment. Doing that. The more I look,… (and further research) prospective jobs,… the less attractive they seem. I am not college educated. That (can be?) a limit. There is jobs that are physically demanding, pay well, 12 hour shifts, sometimes rotating shifts, running a machine. At near 60,…. not so sure I want to be doing all that. I have never had a “robot” job.

                    Like we have discussed before,… got some back,.. doing fine,… got options,.. and in no big rush at the moment.

                    And,… at near 60,… employers will have second thoughts. Not that they are allowed to ask upfront legally,… but that is a very real thing.

                    Sorry for all that “extra”,……. 🙂 Maybe someone else is going through something similar?

                    How bout this????,… Geo,… good to hear from you and thank you for asking. Nothing yet,…. but no worries mate! 😉 LOL!

                    Chris


        • Chris,

          With some digging around you can find it. This is also information I have acquired from talking to custom builders. When shooting “slugs” or cast bullets to be more correct, they would use custom barrels with 1:10 – 1:14. My HM1000X will group 1″CTC at 100 yards with pellets. It has a 1:26. I have been reading where others have been testing the slower twist rates with pellets and doing much better.

          In the last couple of years the manufacturers have been conducting tests also. I am certain more air rifles in the future will have interchangeable barrels with different twist rates or maybe offer one or the other.


  2. Morning B.B.,
    I appreciate your mention of bias toward a certain BB or pellet while testing it for accuracy. It is tough to avoid bias in a simple test like this because we do it without realizing it.


    • Will S.,

      I agree that B.B. readily and refreshingly admits when he has a bias or preconception. He has mentioned in the past that when it comes to accuracy tests, the characteristics of the air gun (power level, powerplant, bore, etc.) along with his prior experience, of which he has perhaps more than anyone else, play a role. There are so many different brands and varieties of pellets and even BBs, B.B. probably doesn’t want to spend time testing with an ammo he has no particular reason to believe will be accurate.

      He is, as we see above with the Marksman BBs, quite willing to explore requests of certain ammo. Knowing that the online universe has a number of enthusiasts who tout Marksman BBs in the Lil Duke perhaps serves as a sort of passive request to try something. :^)

      Michael


  3. B.B.,

    I vaguely recall Pyramyd Air used to sell Marksman BBs in two different packages, the one with the speedloader (I still love mine), and one that was just BBs, attached to a small backing piece of cardboard (which P.A. no longer sells). Part of my recollection is the air gun community felt there was a size difference between the blister pack BBs, perhaps named Lasermax (but BB-sized, not for slingshots) and the ones paired with a speedloader.

    On the other hand as I get older, my trust in my recollections has waned.

    Michael


  4. B.B.,

    It’s good to know that the copper clad Air Venturi BBs have been discontinued. I still have one unopened bottle of them. Perhaps one day they will carry a premium on the big auction site and I can list them as “Earlier, much-coveted COPPER Air Venturi BBs!!!” Then I can have an exorbitant opening bid for them to manipulate buyer psychology. Maybe that can even make up for my slumping 401K! Hah!

    Nah, probably not. As The Duke himself would intone, as he did multiple times in “The Searchers,” “That’ll be the day!”

    Michael


  5. Well, it is about time. FX is starting to produce .35 barrels and such for the Impact II and likely others of their line.

    This may encourage the pellet companies to explore this caliber more. I’m ready. 🙂


    • RR
      I have checked out some stuff before the bullet verses pellet thing came about.

      It seems that .35 caliber is more of a bullet shooting caliber air gun. And the .30 caliber air guns seem to like pellets better.

      I’m a .30 caliber pellet fan myself. Especially if we are talking air guns. If I want to shoot bullets it will be a firearm.


      • GF1,

        Like I was saying, my HM1000X has a 1:26 barrel. It was set up specifically to shoot the JSB 81 grain pellet. I have on occasion tried cast bullets, but have not found any that did well in my rifle. There are a few that have come out recently I want to try. I will probably have to get a barrel with a different twist rate for bullets. Fortunately, it is easier for me to change a barrel than it is in the FX Impact and about the same price.


        • RidgeRunner,

          As you probably know in powder burner rifles .35 cal. is seen as a balistically limited caliber. That may just be a lack of load/cartridge development but at the smaller end 30-06, .308 (and lately even smaller calibers outperform .35 rounds and .40 and above are the go to for large dangerous game. It seems in bullet shooting specific airguns the Balistics play out similar. Not to many .35 cal pellet shooters or ammo up until now to really know much on how they will do. I wonder when we will see production .40+ caliber pellets…if ever?

          shootski


          • Shootski,

            Are you suggesting that larger caliber air guns would be better off shooting pellets vs slugs?

            As a side,….. how is the round ball research going? Awhile back,… you were pretty hot on that topic.

            Chris


            • RidgeRunner,
              The .338 is certainly out their for specialty shooting. Longrange hunters still seem to be mostly going to smaller and smaller Calibers but yes i detect a rebellion brewing on some of the LRH forums for the folks in Western NA that hunt Elk and the Big Bears at longer ranges.

              It is all interesting and that makes it fun.

              shootski


              • Shootski,

                A few years back a friend was going on a missionary trip to NW Alaska. He was going to bring a 30-06 but was told not to bother. It was not powerful enough.

                The PB crowd is slowly discovering their big bores. Because of 50 years of Mattelomatics they all migrated to the small caliber, long range stuff. The .223 is great for groundhog hunting, but you are only going to piss that grizzly off.


                • RidgeRunner,

                  Although I don’t have your total aversion to the Mattelomatic, while flying RECON I did carry a M14 variant or M590A1 to be certain the “groundhogs” stayed dead.
                  Info understand the benefits of Mass and wound diameter. After all I own mostly Big Bores in Air and PB. I never believed the reduced recoil accuracy benefit SCAM. Being fit helped with ammo weight too!

                  shootski


                  • Shootski,

                    My aversion started as a teenager shooting groundhogs with a .223. Excellent varmint round.

                    As for the rifle, construction of aluminum and plastic is not reassuring to a guy who likes the M14. The tolerances are also too tight, a little dirt and it jams. The gas feeds back into the receiver, fouling it causing jams. The gas feed line is a dinky, little thing, easy to foul up.

                    There are cures to some of these issues.

                    The first M16 I experienced was carried by the SEALs. They had thrown away the shoulder stock and put a 10 inch barrel on it. I thought it made a dandy submachinegun. With the shortened grenade launcher it was a hoot.

                    A main battle rifle? Not for me..


                  • Shootski,

                    Back to the .35. This is pure conjecture on my part, but I think the PB crowd did not look at this caliber range for two reasons. Below it was the 30-06 and its variants and above it were the .375 H&H magnum and bigger.

                    Another reason is Europe adopted the 9mm as a pistol round. No one on this side of the pond took it that serious and it never caught on until the US military decided they were too cheap to buy .45 anymore.

                    There is hope for it yet.


                    • RidgeRunner,

                      I lost most of my original answer to you on the balistic problems of .357/9mm and Compressibility. I read about it somewhere and can’t find my source just now. Seems the smaller, 7mm and less slip through the air better and the 10mm plus sizes have the Mass to not be effected. I have been auditing a Stanford University course on Fundamentals of Compressible Flow, Course Reader by Brian J. Cantwell. It is available on line as a PDF (BIG!) and everything I thought I knew about the Gas Laws, Aerodynamics, Lift and Drag is being turned on its head.
                      If the Airgun (all types of powerplants,) pellet, and bullet designers don’t have this level of knowledge then we are still in the Stone Age of Airgunning! I’m blown away by my ignorantia about a subject I thought I knew something about. The Math is really hard but the concepts taught would have made me a better student of Math. This guy makes the connection to the real world that none of my Math flunkies (full professors no less) never could. They were all Hacks! I now am beginning to understand how folks at the fringes of Airgunning keep talking about the ease of going supersonic with the proper design on valves, TP/nozzle(s), Barrel and projectile! The NO Sayers are full of it depending on the understanding of the Gas Laws of old. Full of assumptions in one or two dimensions instead of all applicable, to include time, to the point of being trivializations!

                      END OF RANT!

                      .357 seems to not be a good spot to be in air at any velocity!

                      shootski


                    • Shootski,

                      You have certainly given me much food for thought with this rant. As this is all I have to work with, I will still have to give this caliber more exploration.

                      I do know that this caliber has been very successful for pistol ammunition since the 1800’s. As for the higher velocities the projectiles will most definitely have to change in shape and size. Twist rates will also be a major factor.

                      I do have to admit that from my experiences and scrounging for data that this caliber does seem to be a crossover point. As you pointed out, the smaller calibers can be accelerated to incredible velocities, creating hydroshock capabilities. In the larger calibers, though they can be accelerated to these velocities do mostly rely on mass.

                      I would not write off this caliber though. As I said, it is a bridge. It may end up falling to the wayside as has the .20, but for the foreseeable future it will be here for sometime in the airgun world. It will take the development of large caliber projectiles so that these air rifles are capable of MOA accuracy. At this point, they are not. My HM1000X .357 is.

                      “What good is 500 FPE if you can’t hit what you are shooting at?”


                  • Shootski,
                    You have certainly given me much food for thought with this rant. As this is all I have to work with, I will still have to give this caliber more exploration.
                    I do know that this caliber has been very successful for pistol ammunition since the 1800’s. As for the higher velocities the projectiles will most definitely have to change in shape and size. Twist rates will also be a major factor.
                    I do have to admit that from my experiences and scrounging for data that this caliber does seem to be a crossover point. As you pointed out, the smaller calibers can be accelerated to incredible velocities, creating hydroshock capabilities. In the larger calibers, though they can be accelerated to these velocities do mostly rely on mass.
                    I would not write off this caliber though. As I said, it is a bridge. It may end up falling to the wayside as has the .20, but for the foreseeable future it will be here for sometime in the airgun world. It will take the development of large caliber projectiles so that these air rifles are capable of MOA accuracy. At this point, they are not. My HM1000X .357 is.
                    “What good is 500 FPE if you can’t hit what you are shooting at?”


            • ChrisUSA,

              “…larger caliber air guns…”. do you mean Big Bore or the new crop of air sipping regulated Medium bore, for our discussion say, .25 to .357? The air sippers need pellets for great accuracy out to say, 65-75 yards if they can get 850+FPS MV. The steep drop off in velocity of pellets seems to be the real problem beyond that range as well as wind (Benchrest excluded for better shooters) seemingly. The Bullet/Slug shooters run into the Transonic issues and so far it is too costly (gases) to do much testing of projectiles for Big Bores above 1,000FPS. SO, the Big Bore envelope of MV and Range (flat trajectory) seems to be getting squeezed between the ever faster air sippers and the cost of going well above transonic and staying there until target/game impact. I’m talking real world not NO wind days!
              As far as my big Bore (.575caliber) round ball research I have a good supply of them but attending to my Spouses Physical Therapy needs and doing all the cooking and Hausfrau duties has cut my range time to almost nothing. I am using my SIG Super Target for dry fire and some getting to know her plinking…I’m still waiting for my PA order of top drawer .177 wadcutters (to include the .177 Chinese Olympic pellets)…the COVID19 issue seems to be holding back my shipment…Arg!

              shootski


              • Shootski,

                “I wonder when we will see production .40+ caliber pellets…if ever?”,…. The .40+ is what made me ask the question. I think I have seen .50 cal. pellets being sold, but maybe not.

                Yes,… Covid is just getting going. With test kits getting distributed more widely, detection will go up and so will the quarantines. In Ohio, The Arnold event was all but cancelled. Big mess. Then, in the local town, 14 students and staff just got back from Italy and all are in self imposed quarantine.

                Continued best wishes on getting the wife up and running good as new soon.

                Chris


                • Chris,

                  JSB had .45 diabolo pellets for a time, but I cannot find them now. They were probably not popular right now. That may change. Air Venturi is selling a .45 diabolo right now.

                  https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Air_Venturi_45_Caliber_150_grain_Pellet_100_ct/1493

                  As for the .40 or 10mm, I personally have seen only one air rifle in that caliber, the Badger. The .30 and .35 are only now starting to catch on with more manufacturers. Unless that happens with the .40 it will likely go the way of the .20. They are out there, but your choices are few and far between.

                  I am excited that FX is going to the .35. Soon my choices will increase dramatically.


                  • RR,

                    I do not know enough to have an opinion. Shootski made some good points regarding the practical caliber (gap) for airguns. And, from what I gather, he is a bit more advanced than most of us in ballistic matters.

                    Then,… he admits that he just had his eyes opened (wide) on something that he is currently reviewing. How ’bout that?

                    I think in part, that we as consumers are just funding the maker’s experiments to a large degree. Then again,… I guess it has always been that way and shall forever be.

                    Chris (aka: reluctant consumer guinea pig) 🙂


                    • Chris,

                      LOL! In some respects both he and you are correct. However, it has been my experience that “science” does not always know what it is talking about. I have seen on more than one occasion that “science” has had to revise its position on many things. I learned a long time ago that you can manipulate math to prove whatever you want.

                      I am not saying Shootski is wrong. I am saying that we should remain sceptical. Look how everyone worships Steven Hawkings as a genius. None of that gobbledygook can ever be proved or disproved. Is it not strange that the technology that allowed him to “speak” all of this is not available to anyone else at any price?



              • Shootski,

                Also local on Covid,…. some visitors/spectators for The Arnold made it to the Columbus airport. They were from a banned country, but not sure which one now. (Korea or China I think) They had to get back on the plane. Bottom line, if the flight was direct, they should have never been allowed on in the first place. If they came into the US and had various connector flights in route to Columbus,.. what does that say? Thinking now, it must have been a connector, otherwise the whole plane would have been stopped/held. Either way,… stuff is slipping through the cracks.

                Yea,.. I would not be looking for your pellets anytime soon. I am surprised that you could not get them somewhere else in the US. Of course, we all love the way that PA packs them, but I thought those “Uber premium” pellets came in foam packed hard cases with each pellet in it’s own little bed? Those might survive poor packing/shipping much better.

                Chris


          • Shootski,

            The manufacturers tend to be cautious about spending lots of money on something that may not pan out. The demand for .35X is on the increase, so they are sticking their toes in the water and seeing how it feels.

            As for powder burners, the .35X has been left to the pistols mostly, but it may soon advance. We are up to the .338 now. The PB guys are discovering once again the carrying and knockdown power of mass.



  6. So has anyone else seen the you tube where a guy shrank the groups on a SIG MCX/Virtus (I didn’t catch which one) by drilling the flange out of the belt to minimize the damage to the pellet skirt/head he said he saw when he would load and push a pellet through the belt. In the video using an OEM belt and a modified belt he got quite a difference in grouping at short range. I was off put by the accuracy of the Virtus, but now wonder if it would be moved back into the realm of maybe, if this simple mod works.


  7. B.B.,

    In Old Dust Devil’s you wrote: “Perhaps because it was getting toward the end of the test I was relaxing a little more than I should have been.”
    Tom you know I must ask: Do you mean Physical or Mental relaxation?

    Also, I like the Marksman bb oversize demonstration photograph! Very clearly shows effect of 0.0055-0.0035″ on barrel fit; on the Plus(+) side NoGo and on the Negative (-) end ammo rattling down and out the bore!

    shootski



      • B.B.,

        As I suspected. It is interesting that as I lose it mentally I find myself tightening up physically which then takes more mental effort to relax physically.
        I was taught to do five cleansing breath cycles, rub my palms together to warm them up and while cupping them, to avoid eyeball contact, just cover both eyes for a reverse 100 countdown remembering to breathe.
        If that doesn’t clear vision and mind …then pretty soon thereafter it is time to take a longer mental break or just call it a day for shooting.
        Sometimes we have that luxury to stop shooting and other times when it is work we don’t.

        shootski


  8. B.B.,
    It’s nice to see that this little gal can shoot; with her and some Hornady Black Diamond BBs, one could be well set for a fun shooting session with their grandkids…very cool. =>
    Take care & God bless,
    dave





        • BB,

          Like I said before,… I use the RSS so E-mail notifications are something I do not use and would just as soon not have to see on my laptop or phone. No biggy though. BS phone stuff is what I detest.

          On that, a huge amount were in spam even though the spam showed nothing in there. Now, some are showing up on the phone, but not the laptop and vice-versa. An E-mail from Hank made it to the phone, but never did make it to the laptop. So,… it may not just be all Word Press.

          Like you said,…. maybe just better to leave the ol’ sleepy bear lie. 😉

          Chris



    • Shootski,

      It was just a joke. Apparently, and sadly in my opinion, old-fashioned lever action springer BB guns don’t drum up much interest. After almost 24 hours only 41 comments. Hey, I love springer BB guns, and I have watched all but a few of the John Wayne westerns that have been released on home video. But The Lil Duke looks forlorn, and the John Wayne tribute CO2 revolvers On Special semi-regularly for a couple years now. (Sigh.)

      Ah, but the John Wick stuff probably sells like hotcakes, er pancakes. (Young-uns don’t know what a hotcake is.)

      B.B., maybe more black rifle blogs? The Sig MCX doesn’t tickle me, but then again, I like driving stick shift cars, and the Sig did get almost 90 comments in a day.

      Michael


  9. B.B.,

    No kidding at all this time. Seriously, I think a glitch just occurred in the automated e-mail thing. When Shootski responded to my “Just to let you know, none of the replies . . .” comment, I got an e-mail with his reply. I did NOT get an e-mail notifying me of Gunfun1’s reply, however.

    Michael



      • B.B.,

        Not to beat a dead horse, but is the problem mostly with successive, multiple replies, such as a reply to a reply to a comment? That is something I have noticed with my comments. The first reply I get, but if there are others replying to the reply, those I am not notified of.

        This must be quite irritating to you.

        Michael


      • B.B.,

        I finally did receive Gunfun1’s reply to my post yesterday, but it came from you! Does that hint that you have found a hands-on work around? :^) It did go to my spam filter, which in my case is OK because I’ve learned over the years to check there for legitimate e-mail.

        Michael


Leave a Reply