by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier
ASG X9 Classic.
This report covers:
- The test
- ASG Blaster BBs
- The eye is sharp
- Hornady Black Diamond BBs
- Recoil
- H&N Smart Shot lead BBs
- Evaluation
I had to go out of town suddenly today for a family emergency and I don’t know when I’ll return. I will do the best I can with the blog. Fortunately I shot and took pictures for today’s report before this happened.
Today we look at the accuracy of the ASG X9 Classic BB pistol. Let’s get to it.
The test
I shot from 5 meters using the UTG Monopod to rest my shooting hand. Because this pistol uses a lot of gas, a fresh CO2 cartridge was installed at the start of the test.
ASG Blaster BBs
First up were ASG Blaster BBs. I learned how to load the magazine in this part of the review and it went a lot easier than in Part 2. Put the BBs in the channel of the magazine with the follower pulled all the way down. Then tip the mag slightly back and they roll down to the hole, where they drop into the mag. Loading is much faster and easier that way.
Ten Blaster BBs went into a 2.189-inch group at 5 meters. The group is open and generally round. I don’t think Blaster BBs are right for this pistol.
Ten ASG Blaster BBs made this 2.189-inch group at 5 meters.
The eye is sharp
Incidentally, if you are wondering, my right eye (sighting eye) is razor-sharp. I am seeing the front sight perfectly. The bull is a little fuzzy, but that is exactly how it should be with a handgun held properly.
Hornady Black Diamond BBs
The next BB I tried was the Hornady Black Diamond BB. I didn’t watch the group as I shot — just kept sighting and shooting. When it was over there were 10 shots in 1.287-inches. That was the best group of the test. Notice that the BBs went close to the point of aim, which was 6 o’clock on the bull.
Ten Hornady Black Diamond BBs went into 1.287-inches at 5 meters. The best group of the test.
Recoil
I mentioned in Part 2 that the blowback of this pistol is very realistic. Well, that came through very clearly in this accuracy test. I think the X9 Classic makes a very good trainer for a Beretta 92FS/M9.
H&N Smart Shot
The final BB I tested was the H&N Smart Shot lead BB. These are larger and sometimes do very well in BB pistols. In the X9 Classic 10 of them went into 2.298-inches at 5 meters. That was the largest group of this test. Clearly the Smart Shot BB is not for the X9 Classic.
At 5 meters the X9 pistol put 10 H&N Smart Shot lead BBs into a group measuring 2.298-inches between centers.
Evaluation
The ASG X9 Classic is a very realistic BB pistol that copies the M9 military pistol closely. The realism is good and the blowback is among the heaviest I have ever tested.
Accuracy is adequate, if not stunning. But I think at the distance this pistol will be used it’s all that’s required. Consider using Hornady Black Diamond BBs unless you find something better.
The use of gas is high, but that goes with the heavy recoil I think. I don’t like that the magazine floorplate must be removed each time a new CO2 cartridge is pierced. But that is a small inconvenience in a very realistic action BB pistol.
Life happens.
Do what you need to do, it’s okay.
We’ll wait.
And wish the best for you.
David
I hope all is well too. The pistol looks to be a good trainer. Great news on the eye. This eye seems to have come around much quicker than the other one, which is interesting.
Good Day all,… Chris
Family first.
Hope it all works out for you and your family. If anyone is interested Crosman has parts for the Wildfire now. The parts aren’t on the website yet but if you call they can help you find the part over the phone.
Halfstep
Thanks for the info about the Wildfire parts. That is good to know.
So did you order some parts for your Wildfire?
GF1
Yep, I sure did. Ordered a valve assembly( part # 1077PCP-090)for $11.43 + S&H.
I was able to get the part because a nice and very helpful young man named Kevin, after I explained why I needed parts, took the time to search around in his system to see if he could find anything that might indicate if a 1077 valve was being used on the new gun. While doing this he found that the WiFi parts had been listed ( he didn’t expect this because they normally aren’t put up until nearer to the time that new products run out of warranty). At any rate , he found them but couldn’t let me order one because none of the parts had been priced yet. So he volunteered to take my number and do some checking around to find out why they were listed but not priced and encourage whoever was responsible for pricing to get it done. If he had any luck he said he would call me. So the next day he called and left me a message with the part number and price so I could order the valve, which I did right away, though through a different service tech. He then called me the next day and left another message telling me that he was afraid that I maybe hadn’t got the first message so he was calling again in hopes of speaking with me so he could be sure I got the info. My point is ; That is what I call real Customer Service, not Lip Service !! Sorry ’bout the long story but I wanted to voice my appreciation publicly to Kevin for going above and beyond !
Halfstep
Good deal. And yep have talked with Crosman different times and always have gotten good results.
Let me know when you get your valve.
BB, take care of family. We look forward to your return.
B.B.,
Don’t worry about us. We’ll be here.
Best wishes!
Walt
I do not know if all you guys have noticed, but Crosman and PA have done some serious price reductions on the Marauder. Very likely it is due to the fact that the market is starting to be flooded by competitively priced PCPs that are as good or better.
The airgun world is getting better everyday.
RR,
I think the Gauntlet has a lot to do with that.
B.B.
BB, if you would like to have that 1968 Air Rifle Headquarters Catalog, contact me at michaelrigotti@centurytel.net.
It will be very inexpensive.
Mike
BB,
That and other air rifles, both PCP and sproinger, are starting to seriously cut into Crosman’s market share. Who knows, maybe this will inspire them to design a decent sproinger trigger. Yeah, I know. Just wishful thinking on my part.
RR
I wonder if that’s why they held off on the release of the regulated Marauders.
Maybe they want to get the regular Marauder inventory sold first. Maybe that’s why the price reduction.
BB
First off hope everything is ok with the family.
And I just wonder if the heavy blow back on this pistol is making it a bit more difficult to get better accuracy.
To me that’s sort of ok. I like the idea that it resembles more closely the recoil of the firearm. Or I should say as you mentioned more of a blow back than what you have seen on other air guns. Maybe this pistol needs held tighter than other air gun pistols?
GF1,
Could be, I don’t really know.
B.B.
BB
You know what would be interesting too.
Take the bb that shot the best this time and shoot it again at the 5 yards and see if it repeat itself on group size.
Then take that same bb at 5 yards and try a different hold on the gun. Maybe a 5 shot group with a tighter hold and another 5 shot group with a looser hold.
That might just be the trick to getting some of these blow back guns to shoot good.
Hopefully all this rain will end late tonight like they are saying and I can try out some different holds with the M22 I have. If I get to this weekend I’ll post some results.
BB
I wish the best for your family.Great news on the eye.Why didn’t you try your favorite Daisy BBs?
Best wishes for the family, B.B. Now, I’m wondering at another definition of accuracy. Maybe, it’s not about MOA. It’s just wherever your gun can shoot at an inch, even at 5 yards.
Twotalon, thanks for the review of the cars. Pussycat is what I like to hear about the Mustang. Who can push a sports car to its full potential anyway without getting themselves killed? For the same reason, I am quite taken with the Dodge Charger. Reviews say that your grandmother can drive it to the grocery store but, certain models at least, can go 200 mph. Gunfun1, I believe that you would have been MasterBlaster in Mad Max. You’re right about his interceptor car. It was the Ford Falcon which was a model produced only for Australia. That is an iconic scene where Max walks vengefully into the garage in his full leathers and comes roaring out in his black car. But I always wondered about the meaning of the interceptor car. Based on the one example at the very start of the series, the interceptor is supposed to charge head first at the quarry in a game of chicken and hope they turn first.
Kevin, here is another question about leather. I’m persuaded that you want to protect leather boots from moisture. But won’t that lead to the leather drying out and cracking? That can’t be good for it. But the only cure that I’ve hard of is neatsfoot oil which damages the leather in the process of softening and restoring it. So, how do you go about preventing and curing dryness in the leather?
Matt61
Matt61,
…… “definition of accuracy”,.. you are pondering? To me,.. that would be based on what others can do with the same equipment. Then,.. I try to match myself and equipment to that. At some point, I must realize that I am not the best of the best,.. or even near that. Always strive for better,.. but also realize there will always be limitations of equipment, experience and personal talent and yes, even money.
That is my simplistic take on the matter. Compare. Strive for better. Collect enough data so that you know (your) best.
Oh yea,.. as B.B. reminded us all a few days ago,… try and have some fun too while you are at it. 🙂 🙂 🙂
Chris
Matt61
I see myself more as Berry who built the black Mad Max interceptor on the special police force. Remember. I build stuff to perform. 🙂
And Siraniko. You did mention the car was a 73 Ford Falcon. I looked it up and it seems to be a Australian Falcon. But what I find funny about the Australian cars back then. It seems that the model year represented a body style that was a few years older and a different body style than the American car.
Here is a 70 Ford Torino
https://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2012/11/08/21/40/1970_ford_torino-pic-6667988231036078150-1600×1200.jpeg
Here is a 73 Ford Torino
https://i1.wp.com/hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1.jpg-975×648-Google-Chrome-4102014-65216-AM.bmp.jpg?resize=720%2C383
Here’s a Australian Ford Falcon
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0b/42/e5/0b42e583621904a7034b479da56c67a8.jpg
Here’s the Mad Max car
http://www.aussiecoupes.com/images/madmaxes3.jpg
Definitely a body style difference.
Nice Fords. Mine is a 2003 Mustang SVT Cobra (Power Upgrades). Sonic Blue. Fast as the Snake.
🙂 🙂
Mike
Mike
I raced a few of those at the dragstrip with my modded 04 and 05 Srt-4 Dodge Neons I had bought brand new back then. Them mustangs do run.
But you probably wouldn’t believe me if I told you what the Neons ran. 😉 🙂
Neons are light. They would really go with the right power and tires.
Mike
Mike
Yellow 04 went 12.80’s at 111 with factory Pilot Sport radials. Factory engine and turbo with boost turned up.
Black 05 went 11.65 at 127 with wrinkle wall slicks. Built engine and stock boost and turbo.
Amazingly quick little cars.
Nice! Getting close to being 10 second cars.
Mike
Mike
Had a few 10 second cars too. No 9 second cars but real close to the 9’s.
🙂
GF1
Bunch of lead footed scofflaws around here .
tt
TT
Just can’t see it any other way.
I don’t know if you remember me saying but got me a a new 2016 Sonic turbo at the end of last year.
It’s got the RS performance package. It has a 6 speed auto. with a 4.30 drive ratio in the differential. 3000 stall converter if I select the performance mode. Plus a manual mode on the shifter with a thumb up and down shift button.
But that’s all from the factory. I put a cold air intake on it. Cat back 3″ exhaust and adjustable waste gate and boost controller on the turbo.
The car will burn the 17″ 50 series tires all the way through first and second gear. That’s not even brake torquing it and getting the stall converter up.
Haven’t had it to the drag strip yet to see what it runs. But pretty good idea it will be in the upper 12’s if it will hook up. Or I should say if I can learn how to use the go pedal. 🙂
GF1
No reply room left .
Sounds hotter than anything I need.
tt
TT
It keeps me happy for the time being.
🙂
Matt61,
There is another product for leather called mink oil.Its sort of the consistency of vasoline and you rub it in to make leather items water resistant and more supple. Works really well on the boots I’ve used it on.
Matt61,
There is another product for leather called mink oil.Its sort of the consistency of vasoline and you rub it in to make leather items water resistant and more supple. Works really well on the boots I’ve used it on.