Seneca Recluse II 500cc Air Rifle

25yds right out of the box dead center on target. Beautiful finish from. End to end. Walked out to 45 yds still using no scope.. dead center right on target. Low power shot through 2x4 20 yds clean high power spins an AR45 6 inch plate a few times. As well as a few others have already stated this was a refurbished purchase my reasoning behind that was another review I read and a thought of "if its refurbished then it would go through better testing then the 10 for $10 on a new one but I wouldn't be paying for it... may not be the case but this recluse is spot on perfect

Nothing

If you don't have it get it!

It reminds me of older style air guns, a real classic look. This rifle was supposed to be a refurbished air gun, I have searched this rifle with a magnifying glass and can not find anything that would even remotely make me think this rifle was anything but brand new. It's also the first air gun that I have every shot that had a kick when squeezing trigger. It's also very loud, that happens to be a plus for me.

Don't change a thing.

I don't know if you will get the same deal I got when I purchased this refurbished rifle, but for the price I paid for mine and the condition it's in this had to be the very best deal I have ever made. I own like 40 air guns and this one ranks like number two over all. P.S. it also looks great on a wall lol.

Really impressed with this gun. Beautiful wood stock and etching. Very powerful, shooting nosler 145gr slugs at 853fps for 234fpe.

Trigger is heavy as advertised but changing springs to lighter ones is quick and easy.

Not back yard friendly. Two much power unless you have a good backstop and you will definitely need a silencer.

The look of this rifle is great,love to shoulder it,rear sight is the best thing ever on a big bore rifle.

Bolt to the new upgraded one,or make available with hammer

Buy it,the best thing ever

Beautiful Gun, great traditional look and feel.

Mine doesn't hold air. Shipped from factory without any testing. I took it to a dive shop to get initial pressure so valves and o-rings would seat. Still loses air from the muzzle / breach. When disconnected from the air connection, it also loses air. If I were selling these, I would not just recommend the service and sighting, I would do it as a matter of service. I received mine and would not hold air. 3 weeks for me to return and replace. If it were my company, I would require testing and sighting before shipping. Money saved when you consider employee time solving issues. Send out a tested and sighted gun and reduce the wasted employee time for solving problems. A little extra care would save a lot of money in customer service. AND I would be a happier and possibly return customer, not so sure now.

Expect issues with the gun, may need to return for service. Pay the extra money for testing and sighting (just to save aggravation and to be sure valves etc. are seated) Can't rate it because I can't shoot it.

I really liked the power that it has. I have the 357/9mm. I like the number of shots I get. . . I like the ability to cast bullets for it. I like the double air chamber for more shots. Since I have not had this gun very long, I cannot be objective on longevity and other things that may or may not happen as I use the gun more. I gave it a 4 overall for the following reasons. 1. Trigger pull. 2. Loading. 3. Cocking scratchiness. It is not a smooth pull. But in time, it probably will smooth out. 4. Accuracy (so far). This accuracy could be the result of such a hard trigger pull. Eventhough it has about a 1.5 inch CTC at 40 yards, I think with time and a trigger fix to lower the poundage, the accuracy should improve. I also have not tried a number of different pellets in the gun. Thus, I may not have the Golden Pellet that shoots cloverleafs yet.

1. Change the way it cocks. . .It is scratchy? when you pull back the lever, making it hard to stop in low power. 2. Definitely change the trigger mechanism. . .it has a VERY VERY hard pull. 3. Somehow add a sling mechanism. . . My Recluse is HEAVY.. .I do not see how folks say it is a light gun. I also have the double chamber 500cc. 4. Change the way you load it. You have to push the ammo forward and up into the chamber. Your fingers cannot push it forward enough, I use another pellet to push. 5. No way to lubricate the O-ring under the sliding silver cover. You can lubricate the O-ring on the back half of the loading chamber, but the ring on the front is unreachable. You could play the game of tilting the gun and dropping chamber oil in hopes of lubricating the ring. 6. The rear sight could be moved forward, just enough to where you can get a Scope mounted.

1. Make sure you have HIGH scope rings, or your rear sight will be in such a way that you cannot mount your scope.
You can move your scope back a ways to solve this problem, but. . . it shouldn't be a problem in the first place.
2. Accuracy is fairly nice. . .I am getting about 1.5 inch groups at 40 yards using Diabolo 81 grain pellets. But I believe
that they group could be smaller if the trigger was something like 2 to 3 pounds.
3. The gun is heavy, and that helps out with the Trigger Pull being so heavy. The gun is heavy enough to help compensate for movement when pulling such a heavy trigger.
4. There really isn't much power difference between low and high power. maybe 50fps? Yet on high power you are burning up more air. To me it isn't worth it. I shoot low power.
5. I have casted 85 grain and 105 grain 356 bullets for the gun. both work well.
6. It will blow through a 2x4 with 81 grain pellets. Don't under estimate the power of this gun.
7. I would purchase it again

I own several air rifles, most all are .25 cal. One a .30. None of these would drive a pellet through a 2x4. So I order a Recluse refurb from PA on Thursday afternoon. Saturday morning it's on my porch. I had to attach the trigger but it was rather hard to do, my allen key rounded out the head on the final turn. The stock is loose so I tightened the screw but it's still loose. I wanted the single tube, but they sent a 2. I thought I'd send it back, until I took that first shot. I can only get it to low power. That's enough for me. I don't know if it's defective or I just don't have the muscle to get it to 2. Low power is enough so I slide in a pellet and it blasts that pellet right through a 2x4. All my other guns are quiet, but this sounds like a 20 gauge shotgun. It is LOUD! It being a refurb it has some minor scratches in the wood but the metal is deeply blued, beautiful. Filled it to 200 bar and shot it 6 times, it went down to 135.

It could come with a suppressor. It's hard to cock. I read it will loosen up after 20 shots, but it's a refurb, unless the hammer and spring were refurbed. It's a little heavy but with all that's going on with this gun It'll do.

If you order one specify which Recluse you want, single tube or two. It uses a lot of air. If you shell out that much cash for a nice rifle, buy a compressor! I bought a battery powered compressor from Amazon for $420. It will pump to 300 bar.
It's not my go to rifle unless a bear stomps through my yard. But it fun to see wood shatter from the back of that 2x4.
I'll have a follow up after a few hundred shots.

Way more powerfull than I expected. Glad I didn't start with 50 cal. Would like my wife to get into it. Perfect first big bore Imo.

Not at this time. Limited time with it so far.

My first air rifle and I can't say enough about the look and feel. And pyramid sent it out immediately, I appreciate it so much when an online store ships in a timely manner. Thanks Pyramid!!! I'll be back for more..

Power. The wide range of bullets in .357. 75 grain Nelson's at 980 fps. 190 grains at 700 fps. 200 ft. lb. very accurate and well built rifle. Almost as beautiful as my Sumatra Carbine. Sam Yang/Seneca makes rifles that are works of art you will want to display. Will hold 200 bar pressure for weeks, maybe months. Mine is the single tube version. Less shots, more power, so I prefer it to the double. It is loud, just the way I want it. For the price, this is an excellent rifle, and powerful.

Air pressure gauge is not even close to accurate. You should fill these rifles using a compressor with an accurate gauge (I highly recommend the Benjamin Traveler). The gauge on my Sumatra is very accurate, (and they are the exact same gauge by the same manufacturer). The screw on cocking arm is a bit low budget, and could use some improvement, but it works. I would produce this rifle as a 5/6 shot (bullets, not pellets) lever action based upon the Sumatra design (metal revolving cylinder, not cheapo plastic), and leave it loud. It's a rifle, not a BB gun, and keep it under 42 inches.

Short rear Dove Tail (11 mm.) rail, and you should use a DT to Weaver adaptor no longer than 12 cm. This will place your line of sight above the front sight on the rifle. especially helpful if you are using a laser. Do not attach anything directly to the dove tail, unless you are prepared to do modifications like using an elevated scope. The plastic rear sight that comes with the rifle arrived broken, and no wonder, it's a piece of crap, but no one is going to use it anyway.

Light, you wouldn't get too tired carrying, holding it all day. Points well.

Fiber optic sights would have been nice, or some weaver rails on the front and back of the gun (for AR compatible sights). Some moderation would have been nice as well.

Before you buy this gun, read this: My first impressions were a sense disappointment, this gun REQUIRES ASSEMBLY. Meaning, you WILL NOT be able to shoot this gun out of the box. What needs assembly? The COCKING LEVER. Let me put it this way, its like buying a brand new car, it looking beautiful and everything you wanted, then you look inside the driver's side and see that there isn't a steering wheel. And you find the steering wheel in a box with the necessary fasteners, and you realize that you don't have the correct tools + you cannot find instructions how to put it on. If you still want to buy this after reading that, buy a 22 inch flat head, brass punches, and a socket head screw set (you may also need a rubber mallet). For me? I might return this and get an Air Force Texan for this headache.