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The Webley Hurricane: Part 4

by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier

Hurricane
Webley Hurricane

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

A history of airguns

This report covers:

  • The Great Enabler
  • Before we test
  • The velocity table
  • Air Arms Falcon pellets
  • RWS Hobby pellets
  • What happened?
  • A test
  • Crosman Premier Lights
  • Do you see what is happening?
  • But wait!
  • RWS Hobbys
  • Air Arms Falcons
  • A huge lesson!
  • Cocking effort
  • Trigger pull
  • Summary

Today is one of the best blog articles I have ever written. A series of what what looked like minor failures turned around and became a huge success and a fantastic learning opportunity. Today we test the velocity of the recently lube-tuned Webley Hurricane.

The Great Enabler

Spouses beware! Today I will once more demonstrate how I earned the title of The Great Enabler.

Before we test

I was as much in the dark as the rest of you. I had not chronographed the Hurricane until this morning, and I knew as much as you did about what might happen. I did note that the pistol now cocks smoothly, though I doubt it is much easier than before. Maybe just a little because there is no feel from galling. It also shoots very smoothly, where before it had a slight buzz.

The trigger has not changed one iota, which I mentioned when I told you I was lubing it with moly. The way the Hurricane trigger is designed no amount of friction reduction is going to make much difference. Now, I can’t comment on the people who say their triggers are heavy and difficult to pull. I only have experience with this one pistol.

The velocity table

Many of you read this blog on smart phones and can’t toggle back and forth between pages like readers on a computer can. So once again I am showing the velocity table I obtained in 2014 again, for comparison.

table
Air Arms Falcon pellets

I shot Air Arms Falcon pellets first. In the Hurricane now the first 10 shots averaged 428 f.p.s. I say “now” because I will come back and shoot Falcons again in this report. The 2014 table says Falcons averaged 466 f.p.s. with a spread of 7 f.p.s. In this string Falcons ranged between 422 and 436 f.p.s. — a spread of 14 f.p.s

This would seem to indicate that putting Tune in a Tube on the Hurricane mainspring slowed the Falcon pellet down by about 38 f.p.s. I have more to say but I will hold it until the end.

RWS Hobby pellets

In 2014 RWS Hobbys averaged 449 f.p.s. with a spread of 32 f.p.s. Hobbys averaged 409 f.p.s. this time, but let’s look at the entire shots string, because there is something important to see.

Shot……..Avg.
1…………422
2…………424
3…………398 — Oh oh!
4…………403
5…………413
6…………407
7…………412
8…………400
}9…………412
10………..405

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What happened?

On the third shot the barrel was not securely latched and it blew open with a loud pop. That shot did not register on the chronograph. I dry-fired the next shot to clear the barrel, in case the pellet hadn’t come out. The Hurricane has a Teflon piston seal that is sized to fit the compression chamber by dry-firing. Dry-firing once or twice from time to time isn’t going to hurt anything.

But look at the large drop in velocity on the next shot, the one I’m calling shot 3. I was almost certain the breech seal had been damaged by the accident — until the end of the shot string. And that’s when the bigger picture hit me. I thought I knew what is going on.

A test

If you guys have learned anything from this blog you probably are starting to see what I’m talking about. And this is your test. What do you think is happening? It is nothing complex, and once you know what it is you will be able to look back and say, “Of course!” But can you spot it now?

Crosman Premier Lights

The next pellet I shot was the Crosman Premier Light. Looking at the 2014 table and seeing the velocity decline of the first two pellets I guessed that this pellet would average around 379 f.p.s.

But things did not turn out as expected. I will not give you an average from this string. Instead I am going to show you a long string of shots.

Shot……..Avg.
1…………323
2…………344
3…………346
4…………355
5…………363
6…………361
7…………364
8…………366
9…………384
10………..371
11………..361
12………..359
13………..364
14………..373
15………..370
16………..378
17………..377
18………..370
19………..385
20………..384|
21………..370
22………..375
23………..371
24………..377
25………..382

Do you see what is happening?

Maybe before it was unclear what is happening, but this string should make it obvious to almost everyone. The lube tune is breaking in before your eyes! This often takes hundreds of shots to see, and I am not saying the break-in is complete, but what you see in the string of Premier Lights is what it looks like when a spring-piston airgun breaks in after a lube tune.

That is why I did not give you an average velocity for the Premier Light. If I took a guess of the average at this point I would say somewhere around 379 f.p.s. — not for the whole string above, but of the next 10 shots, if I were to fire them.

But wait!

Yes, there is more. And this is the reason today’s report is one of the best blog articles I have ever written. If the pistol really is breaking in, won’t Hobbys now go faster than before? Let’s see.

RWS Hobbys

Shot……..Avg.
1…………441
2…………437
3…………441
4…………436
5…………187 — breech blew open again
6…………439

Now you can see it more clearly. The same Hobbys that averaged 409 in the first string (and 449, back in 2014) are now up around 439 f.p.s., give or take. And there is even more to come.

Air Arms Falcons

Now let’s see what Air Arms Falcon pellets do.

Shot……..Avg.
1…………442
2…………443
3…………442
4…………445
5…………441

The average of those 5 shots is 443 f.p.s. That is compared to the average of 428 f.p.s. we saw in today’s first string and 466 f.p.s. in 2014. I don’t think the Hurricane has fully broken in yet. I expect the average velocity of Falcons to increase by a couple feet per second over the next several hundred shots.

A huge lesson!

This test has been a huge lesson in springgunology! The first lesson has been that after a major lube tune you should expect a period of break-in before the gun settles down again. The second lesson is that — yes, TIAT does take away a little velocity. It does so by smoothing out the powerplant in a major way. As long as the gun is powerful to begin with, like this one was, I will take the loss.

And the biggest lesson of this report — hold on to your wallets — is that a chronograph is an essential tool if you are going to mess around with airguns. I told you The Great Enabler was coming today!

But it’s true. If you want to do anything beyond just shooting your airguns, you need a chronograph.

Cocking effort

The pistol now cocks with 15 pounds of effort. I don’t have a good number from the past, but I think it was heavier than that. I think I reported it being 35 lbs. of effort, but when I looked at the back reports I saw that was the number for the BSA Scorpion. I didn’t find a number for the Hurricane.

Trigger pull

The pistol fires with 2 lbs. 7 oz. of effort. Once again I do not have an historical number to compare to. But now we have a number for posterity. The trigger is single-stage with just a hint of creep before the break.

Summary

Now we have a solid baseline for this Webley Hurricane air pistol. We also have a very detailed set of instructions for taking it apart and lubing it properly. I just wonder what the accuracy test is going to show?

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Tom Gaylord (B.B. Pelletier)
Tom Gaylord, also known as B.B. Pelletier, provides expert insights to airgunners all over the world on behalf of Pyramyd AIR. He has earned the title The Godfather of Airguns™ for his contributions to the industry, spending many years with AirForce Airguns and starting magazines dedicated to the sport such as Airgun Illustrated.

114 thoughts on “The Webley Hurricane: Part 4”

  1. B.B.,

    Thank you everyone for the well wishes! I am very blessed to have the PPE when needed instead of having to have to make do using garbage bags and other expedient materials. Unfortunately for my compatriots who were forced to make do they have now all tested positive for the COVID-19. I pray that they recover without incident.

    Springgunology. I like that term. So how do you plan to break in this pistol? If it were the type to have detonation heavy pellets would probably be the order of the day. This might be a good case use for any .177 lead sinker larvae you might have. Hoping that this pistol show its worth on the accuracy test.

    Siraniko

    PS Editing now down to 5 minutes and I also experienced that too many log in attempts notification

    • Siraniko,

      I am so sorry to hear about how the virus has affected those you know and care about. Please stay safe and healthy, although that will be harder and harder to do as more and more people become infected.

      Michael

  2. BB,

    Glad to see that everything is working well.

    Yes, a chrony is super nice and even fun to use. Even if you are not a tuner, they are a good “well care” health check from time to time. How do you “know” if a used rifle you bought is up to snuff or needs a new piston seal or spring? (Knowing) your fps with different pellets also allows you to use a program like Chairgun.

    Dry fire to maybe clear a pellet??? A quick look down the barrel would have verified that?,… no?

    Chris

  3. BB,

    Webley apparently had a great love of the lever-locked break open pistol. You can see it in the Mark VI Revolver, also many of their air pistols including the Hurricane and the Senior I see hanging on the wall. 😉 You do have to insure there is no gunk under the lever or in the spring/plunger “tube” that might cause resistance to movement and restrain the lever from latching properly.

  4. This gentleman is indeed the “Great Enabler”. Many of the “little old ladies” living here at RidgeRunner’s Home For Wayward Airguns were once owned by BB.

    /blog/?s=millitia&btnGo=

    /blog/?s=webley+service&btnGo=

    /blog/2016/08/webley-senior-straight-grip-part-4/
    and
    /blog/2009/09/the-webley-senior-part-2/
    and
    /blog/2005/09/webley-senior/

    Do you kinda get the idea that he might have liked that Webley Senior? Oh, and I did get a tin of Eley Wasps to go with it. 🙂

    Spouses beware?! My wife contacted him and worked out a deal to buy his Webley Service MK II air rifle for my Christmas present a few years back. Talk about enabling.

            • RidgeRunner,

              Do you have a Premier? If I’m not mistaken the early ones were steel framed. If you picked up a Junior and a Premier, that would be a double-tap. You already have an impressive Webley collection, but to make it complete, which is quite do-able, a Mark I and Mark II along with a Tempest, and you’d have all eight classic Webley air guns. A “Wall of Webley”! :^)

              Michael

              • Michael,

                I have never owned a pre war MK I or any MK II or a Junior or a Hurricane. When I was young I owned a post war MK I and a few years ago I owned a Tempest.

                What many do not remember is the Typhoon. I am not talking about that Turkish break barrel thing. It was very similar to the Hurricane. So much so that they may have been the same pistol but renamed and sold in different markets.

                Tempest, Typhoon, Hurricane. I guess Webley saw the storm coming.

                • RidgeRunner,

                  I guess what occurred to me was that a compete collection of English Webley pistols would be relatively easy to do: Mark I, Mark II, Senior, Junior, Premier, Hurricane, Tempest, and now that you informed me of it’s exsistence, the first Typhoon. (I looked the Typhoon up in the Blue Book of Airguns, and it seems to be a Hurricane shrunk just sllghtly in it’s dimensions.) The early Premier and the New Model Sr., New Model Jr., New Model Mk I and New Model MkII all seem to be pretty much the samethe same, so just a steel Premier would suffice. That makes for eight pistols, with only the Typhoon being rare.

                  Michael

                • RR,

                  I forgot to mention above that I really like the small Junior and Tempest. They are downright cute, and there haven’t been that many small springers over the years.

                  Michael

                  • Michael,

                    Although in some respects it is tempting, I really do not want a collection of Webley pistols. If I were to decide to go that route, I would have to have one of each and every one of them. Each one would represent a step in the history of the company. If you look closely, you can see minor design changes. At one point they changed the barrel latch to a completely different design. The MK I I had used a different latch.

                    It is refreshing to see and shoot the smaller sproinger pistols, but that is not the trend these days. “We want more speed! We want more power!”, so they give them that. “We want a stock so we can shoot this thing!”, so they give them that.

                    The Senior is not really that big a pistol. It might be a little bit bigger than the Tempest, but not much. I would like to pick up a Junior. We will see. Right now I have a Lucznik Predom target pistol that could use a little attention. 😉

  5. B.B.,

    In Part 2 of your report on this Webley Hurricane you said:

    “What is the Oh, oh?
    The Oh, oh is what happened during the test of the H&N Finale Match Light pellet. On the third try the cocking went from stiff and jerky to a major issue. I had to use too much force to cock the gun. I didn’t measure it, but 50-60 pounds seems about right. The powerplant feels dry. Obviously something is very wrong with this Hurricane. I can feel galling and it’s getting much worst.”

  6. BB ,

    The power loss from the TIAT is always worth it for the smoothness and longevity of the parts from reduced friction . It is amazing how much easier it is to cock a properly lubed gun also . The guns You can really feel the difference in are the Diana 48 – 54 series side-levers. Of course there are some power-plants that will seize up from the TIAT but there aren’t too many , depends on the tolerances . That thing is so stable with the Air-Arms Falcons !!

    Gene Salvino

    • Gene,

      Would TIAT be recommended for a Diana Mauser K98?

      I believe the K98 underlever powerplant is based on the 460 Magnum. That seems to fall outside the Diana 48-54 series rifles you reference above. Would love to hear if you think TIAT would improve performance or longevity of the K98.

      StarboardRower

  7. I can tell that Spring is in the air around here. There is a male cardinal that has been going from window to window and fighting with his reflection. I guess his hormones are up.

    • RR
      Yep same here with the birds. And the apple blossom trees done bloomed and the pettles are all off and and the leaves are starting to come out.

      The carpenter bee’s and wasp are flying too. We had 2 days this week that was in the upper 80’s and I think it got them more active. And already got a darn mole today. Well at least one less of them to deal with. Yep spring time is here anyway.

    • I have a male Northern Flicker that has begun his mating ritual. He comes early in the morning and pecks away on my eaves trough to call a mate. Once he chooses a mate, the pecking ceases. When he pecks on the eaves trough everyone in the house hears it, it’s very loud. I do like my woodpeckers though and feed several of them. We even had a Pileated Woodpecker coming to our feeder a week ago.

      • Geo791,

        I have a pair of them that hangs around my place. Every year I see them raise up a brood and send them on their way. I watched and listened to them a bit today.

      • Geo791,

        I do have to admit there is a downy headed woodpecker that is trying my patience. It is not really it’s fault though. I have an issue with carpenter bees and this woodpecker is trying to get at them. I just wish he would learn to snatch them out of the air.

  8. We have had some wild weather here in west MI lately. We had a couple of nice 70º-75º degree days, and today the high is only 40º with snow flakes. On Wednesday evening we had a bad hail storm that damaged some cars and the vinyl siding on some houses. We were out in our screen room watching the constant lighting show when the hail started coming down. Man, was that loud as it hit the eaves troughs. It was golf ball to chicken egg size! Luckily we had both of our vehicles in the garage but my grand daughter’s Honda Civic suffered a few dents.
    Geo

  9. “And this is your test. What do you think is happening?”
    B.B.,
    I’m late to the party…actually, I read your blog early this morning…but I was too embarrassed to comment at the time, because I failed your test…*hangs his head in shame*…but I got over myself, hahaha! And I just wanted to say this is a great report, I learned a lot, and I’m now anxiously awaiting the accuracy testing. =>
    Wishing you and all who celebrate it a Blessed Easter,
    dave

  10. So, off the topic question here. I know that my .177 cal 10.5 lb. (with scope) R-1 recoils more than a . 22lr. That long tube and big piston give a pretty big thump even at 12 fpe. I’m thinking that the recoil might be comparable to a .22 hornet or even a .223 in a similar weight rifle and scope. I’ve never shot either one so what do you folks think. I find it interesting that smallbore competitors shoot 12-18 lb rifles to tame the recoil of the .22 lr. I wonder what a 16 lb R-1 would do.
    Brent

    • Brent,

      I can tell you that when I installed the Mag 80 Laza kit that boosted the R1 (.22 caliber) power toi 23 foot-pounds, all vibration went away. The recoil was there but it was better.

      Tighter tolerances, not a weak spring, is the answer you are looking for. I wrote about what happened to a Diana 45 that I manually tuned the same way in this set of articles:

      /blog/2015/05/rws-diana-45-part-10/

      B.B.

        • Brent,

          “I wonder what a 16 lb R-1 would do.” Weigh a lot. You would most definitely reduce your felt recoil, but do you think you could hold it up for a shot? You would have a bench rifle that you were picking up every time to cock and reload.

          Dude, you are not going to cheat Newton’s Laws of Motion. There are ways to redirect the force. If it really is bothersome to you, get a Diana 54. The sled system greatly reduces “felt” recoil.

          There have been many attempts by every sproinger manufacturer to “reduce” the recoil. Some of them have been quite ingenious. I would like to see a combination of the various attempts I have seen over the years. Then the question becomes, “Can you still carry the Frankenstein?”.

          I have a Webley/Hatsan Tomahawk in .22. I have tuned it to where it has no vibration, but when that sear releases there is quite a thump. It is the nature of the beast. You can go over to the “Dark Side”. MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  11. To All,

    Beautiful poem I found

    How the Virus Stole Easter
    By Kristi Bothur
    With a nod to Dr. Seuss

    Twas late in ‘19 when the virus began
    Bringing chaos and fear to all people, each land.

    People were sick, hospitals full,
    Doctors overwhelmed, no one in school.

    As winter gave way to the promise of spring,
    The virus raged on, touching peasant and king.

    People hid in their homes from the enemy unseen.
    They YouTubed and Zoomed, social-distanced, and cleaned.

    April approached and churches were closed.
    “There won’t be an Easter,” the world supposed.

    “There won’t be church services, and egg hunts are out.
    No reason for new dresses when we can’t go about.”

    Holy Week started, as bleak as the rest.
    The world was focused on masks and on tests.

    “Easter can’t happen this year,” it proclaimed.
    “Online and at home, it just won’t be the same.”

    Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, the days came and went.
    The virus pressed on; it just would not relent.

    The world woke Sunday and nothing had changed.
    The virus still menaced, the people, estranged.

    “Pooh pooh to the saints,” the world was grumbling.
    “They’re finding out now that no Easter is coming.

    “They’re just waking up! We know just what they’ll do!
    Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
    And then all the saints will all cry boo-hoo.

    “That noise,” said the world, “will be something to hear.”
    So it paused and the world put a hand to its ear.

    And it did hear a sound coming through all the skies.
    It started down low, then it started to rise.

    But the sound wasn’t depressed.
    Why, this sound was triumphant!
    It couldn’t be so!
    But it grew with abundance!

    The world stared around, popping its eyes.
    Then it shook! What it saw was a shocking surprise!

    Every saint in every nation, the tall and the small,
    Was celebrating Jesus in spite of it all!

    It hadn’t stopped Easter from coming! It came!
    Somehow or other, it came just the same!

    And the world with its life quite stuck in quarantine
    Stood puzzling and puzzling.
    “Just how can it be?”

    “It came without bonnets, it came without bunnies,
    It came without egg hunts, cantatas, or money.”

    Then the world thought of something it hadn’t before.
    “Maybe Easter,” it thought, “doesn’t come from a store.
    Maybe Easter, perhaps, means a little bit more.”

    And what happened then?
    Well….the story’s not done.
    What will YOU do?
    Will you share with that one
    Or two or more people needing hope in this night?
    Will you share the source of your life in this fight?

    The churches are empty – but so is the tomb,
    And Jesus is victor over death, doom, and gloom.

    So this year at Easter, let this be our prayer,
    As the virus still rages all around, everywhere.

    May the world see hope when it looks at God’s people.
    May the world see the church is not a building or steeple.
    May the world find Faith in Jesus’ death and resurrection,
    May the world find Joy in a time of dejection.
    May 2020 be known as the year of survival,
    But not only that –
    Let it start a revival.

    Siraniko

  12. Since there’s no prospect of actually being able to shoot the thing, it was time to break out the tools and strip the SIG Super Target. Anyone familiar with the FAS 604 / 6004 will recognise the basic procedure, removal of the rear pivot pin linking the valve housing to the frame, and of the nut (nuts, in fact, on the SIG) on the end of the hammer spring strut – that is, the internal hammer that knocks the valve open – allow the valve housing and compression cylinder to be lifted up out of the frame.

    It is possible to access alot of the gun in this condition, the only thing to watch is that the frame, cylinder and overlever can flop around a bit and can knock into each other.

    Iain

    • This then is the actual trigger mechanism, attached to the valve housing and compression cylinder by three screws (two half way along, one on either side that also pass through the cylinder, and a third at the rear going straight up behind the valve). The hammer is in the fired position here, and in opening the gun the sear is pulled past the hammer until it engages with (for want of a better word) the full cock notch on the hammer; on closing the gun everything is pushed back down and only then is the hammer spring compressed.

      This also gives about the best view you’ll get of that awkward trigger weight adjustment screw – M3 x 6, by the way.

      Iain

      • A comparison of the FAS and SIG actions, the different grip shape and angle on the SIG requires the hammer spring to sit more vertically down the grip, you can see that it attaches to the hammer where the FAS hammer, which is laminated, has one of its rivets holding it together. Hence the SIG has a new, one-piece hammer. And also, now, a new allen head trigger weight adjuster.

        I must admit I hadn’t twigged that the trigger blade on the SIG is different, much chunkier and a little shorter (the SIG does have a smaller trigger guard).

        Iain

        • Iain,

          Thank you for being bored enough to tear into and compare these two air pistols. I always enjoy seeing these things on the inside.

          Too many airguns and not enough money. Sigh.

    • GF1,

      Good as can be. Hangin’ here with the Easter Bunny (my imaginary friend), kickin’ back wit’ some brews and eatin’ good.

      Hey,…. it’s my imagination,… so I can invite whomever I want! 😉 I got him thinking (real hard) about a PCP (Easter egg, candy, toy, jelly bean, stuffed bunny) launching platform. 🙂 He said he is worried about animal rights activist opposing stuffed bunnies being launched (from) a gun,……….. LOL!

      Chris

        • RR,

          Well,… while he is not opposed to the idea,…. he had to run it past HMBOD first. (Holiday Mascot Board Of Directors) You know?,… Santa Claus, that Leprechaun dude, Cupid, Mr. Gobbles, etc., etc..

          Best I can gather,.. their “peeps”, are supposed to call his “peeps” back,… and all of that other mascot corporate CEO “stuff”. He said it is “complicated”,….. so I left it at that,… then he said he needed a fresh brew,……… 😉

          Chris

    • Shootski,

      Thank you for that. A nice, quick read. I doubt that we would ever see that type of article printed again in the NYT. Apparently,…. they are quite content living with rats the size of cats,……….. 😉 You would think that it (could) be a rather successful pesting market.

      So,… what is on the menu today? Perhaps some scorpions, tarantulas and venom spitting snakes,… lightly roasted/toasted over an open fire? Lightly smoked giant grub worms? 😉

      Have a good one!,……….. Chris

  13. “Grillin’ Gun”
    Hey all, I don’t have a Hurricane, but my Tempest is my “Grillin’ Gun.”
    I don’t like to handle lead when I’m cooking food outdoors, but I have one of those pellet pens for the Tempest; so whenever my wife asks me to do some grillin’ (like today), I load up the pen (I can get 25 pellets in there) and fire off some rounds while I’m waiting to flip the steak, burgers, or hotdogs. Airguns make grillin’ more fun. =>
    Peace & Blessings to all,
    dave

    • Dave,…

      As an adder,… I went to a big cookout one time and there was a wide variety of grilled meats,.. leftover.
      The host was not looking forwards to “dealing” with it,…. so I offered to take the leftovers off their hands,… with the (promise) of making it into chili. I did. They said it was the best chili they ever ate and to be honest,.. maybe the best I have eaten. That is saying a lot coming from a good cook.

      Bottom line,…. throw some extra (anything) on the grill and put it in the freezer for a batch of chili later. You will thank me. 😉

      Chris

  14. Friends, many years ago, I wrote a blog for troubled teens, many of whom were involved in “small cutting”
    (if you don’t even know what that is, good for you; more power to you).
    One of them asked me if I, personally (no second hand info), had ever witnessed a miracle.
    At the time (DEC 2006), I had seen two, and I shared those with him.
    Years later, I had seen a third; and during a season of trying times, I wrote them up for my pastors.

    Everyone is, of course, free to believe whatever they wish to believe.
    However, we are, once again, living in some stressful and trying times.
    Hence, in case you wish to see it, and for whatever encouragement it may provide you, here is my personal story, “A Tale of Three Miracles.”

    http://theeverencouragingword.blogspot.com/2015/08/text-of-story-tale-of-three-miracles.html

    • Dave
      I can relate to your stories. The second story in particular and I won’t go into detail why. But what I have called it is the Calling of God. Sooner or later everyone will come to know it. One way or another. That’s all I can say.

      As has been mentioned since and before this COVID-19 has been going on. If people aren’t praying now I don’t know what it’s going to take to make them pray. And I’ll stop now. I have said enough.

    • Dave,

      Wow. Thank you. I am sure that it left a lasting impression on someone (in need) in the audience. I know that it will leave an impression on me.

      I could list a few, personally. Car wrecks and near avoided ones. All I can say,… the Good Lord must still have some plans for me still yet,.. and even back then as a youth.

      Chris

    • Dave,

      Very good work on your part, sometimes just being in the right place with the right people teaches you more about life than anything.

      And thanks for letting me (us) into your life on this Easter Sunday.

      You did quite a lot of blogging, from the link I also found a livejournal and angelfire blogs that will provide a large amount of reading material for me, thanks for that.

      Just spot looking around on your writings I found a bunch of pictures all very nice, hope you do not mind me sharing this one from March 2006 fourteen years ago.

      Mike

      • Mike, that’s totally cool; I love that pic! That was the day I got my Harley (2006 Heritage Softail Classic).
        Correction, that was the day my wife bought me the Harley…my wife is awesome! =>

  15. Timl did a great job of showing pics of the breech area and rear sight on the Hurricane. The Tempest has a much simpler rear sight, with one screw to adjust windage and one to adjust elevation. And by “adjust,” I mean you loosen the screw, then fiddle around and try and move the sight a little, but not too much. Yet while they are a bid fiddly to adjust, once they are in, they are in; I have not moved the sight in 4 years, not since I got the gun from my Dad and sighted it in with .177 JSB RS pellets. Recoil never moves the sight.
    My HyScore pistol on the other hand, had the rear sight shift to the left after 100 or so shots. I used a brass drift to shift it back, cleaned it with alcohol, and then loctited it in place…yet it did NOT hold!
    So, I got serious; I used the brass drift to sight the gun back in, and I cleaned the rear sight with Acetone, then I put a bead of JB Weld on each side of the dovetailed rear sight.
    It’s holding so far, but I’ve only fired a few dozen shots; we’ll see how it holds up long term.
    Wishing good shooting to all,
    dave

  16. Hi BB,

    I have a .22 Tempest which I am very fond of. Whilst it’s an odd pistol there’s something appealing about it. There is a simple pleasure of heading into the garden with a tin of pellets and some suitable plinking targets. About twenty years or so ago I also purchased an oddity described as a Tempest “buntline”. It is in essence a .22 Tempest with a 12 or 14 inch barrel installed. Clearly someone’s homemade version with the barrel held in place by some tight rubber tubing of all things. What’s it like to shoot? Well I wouldn’t know as I bought it as a fixed upper as the cocking linkage is broken and never got around to fixing it. If anyone is interested I’ll dig it out and post some pictures.

    All the best

    James

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