by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier
Daisy Model 99 Target Special.
This report covers:
- Not what I expected
- Peep sight
- Front sight
- Sling
- Action
- Stock and forearm
- Gravity-feed magazine
- Forced-feed magazine
- Three variations of the Model 99
- 99 accuracy
- Daisy 299
- Comparison to the 499
- Summary
Welcome to July! Today I thought I would start looking at the Daisy Model 99 Target Special that I acquired at the recent Texas airgun show. I know reader RidgeRunner is anticipating this report and perhaps others are, as well.
For the readers who are awaiting the next Diana model 23 rifle report, know that I am working on it in the background and hope to have something for you very soon.
And I learned something very important this weekend. Daisy also sold lead shot for the Targeteer. It was obviously number 6 birdshot, and it makes perfect sense, because it would have been far cheaper than heading steel wire to make steel shot. Just buy the shot and repackage it. We know it works, and it probably works better than the steel shot. The tubes of shot I bought from Ebay were all lead shot. I felt cheated until I did the research and discovered lead was also correct. The learning never ends. Now let’s look at the Daisy 99 Target Special.
Not what I expected
I was surprised by this seemingly average BB gun because I used to own one and wasn’t that impressed. But I didn’t own this one, and therein lies a tale.
The model 99 came out in 1959. It was created by Daisy to promote youth marksmanship training, and had features designed with that in mind. For example, it came with an adjustable rear peep sight.
Peep sight
Peeps were not new for Daisy, the Number 25 slide action gun had them for years, but they were rudimentary compared to this one. Oh, it’s not much to look at, but this peep really works. Both windage and elevation adjustments are made by loosening a screw and sliding the peep in the direction you want the shots to go. The peep disk itself is knurled and serves as the elevation adjustment screw.
The peep sight is fully adjustable.
Front sight
Up front is a globe or hooded front sight that accepts inserts. The rifle came with 4 inserts that can quickly be changed by pressing in on the spring-loaded insert carrier.
The front sight accepts different inserts. Press in on the spring-loaded cutout at the top to release the insert.
Sling
The 99 also came with a sling, though on the earliest model I don’t think the rear anchor was installed by the factory. These slings are made from thin olive drab web fabric and may not really serve the purpose they were intended for — at least not in my opinion. They were for kids to wrap around their off arm as a hasty sling, the way the military used to each marksmanship. But the guns were so lightweight and the rear sling anchor is just an eye screw in the stock that I don’t think they can withstand the strain of a true hasty sling use. I have used a hasty sling for marksmanship and know the strain it puts on the rifle.
Action
The Model 99 has a Daisy wide body action that differs from the action found on Red Ryder-type BB guns. I believe the wide body action was first offered on the Number 140 Defender Daisy that was made only in 1942. After the war the wide body proliferated on a number of other models, but the slimmer Red Ryder action hung on, too, and both are still in production today.
Stock and forearm
Both the stock and forearm are made of wood and stained dark brown. Because of the wide action, the stock is thick and robust.
Gravity-feed magazine
In the first year of production only, the 99’s magazine was a gravity feed type that nominally holds 1,000 BBs. When the gun is cocked, the BBs run down to a funnel at the base of the shot tube, where they are organized in a line to enter the breech.
Twist the knurled muzzle to open the magazine for loading.
This style action is very reliable in operation, but was the basis used by the Consumer Product Safety Commission to sue Daisy in a wrongful injury case — on the basis of the potential for unreliability (i.e. a BB could get hung up and the gun could be potentially loaded without the shooter knowing). Of course the gun-handling safety rules of assuming that every gun is loaded and never pointing the muzzle at anything you don’t want to shoot would cancel this, but that’s something a gun-hater never stops to consider.
When their attorney approached me for my technical opinion on the reliability of gravity feed (I sensed he wanted to use me as an expert witness), I showed him several instances like the Gatling gun, where military firearms have used gravity feed successfully. Within a short time after that the CPSC settled with Daisy out of court.
Forced-feed magazine
Daisy switched to their 50-shot forced feed magazine in 1960 and retained it for the Model 99 through the end of production in 1979. The first Model 99 I owned years ago had the forced feed mag and I thought from that association that I knew this model. I did not care for that BB gun. I found it to be mediocre in all ways, but it wasn’t until researching this article that I discovered how different it was from the gun I’m now testing.
Three variations of the Model 99
There are three variations of the Daisy Model 99. The one I am now examining is the first variant and it is characterized by having gravity feed. Variant two is the one with forced feed. Variant three was made in 1967 only, and was called the Model 99B Champion.
99 accuracy
The Model 99 was created by Daisy as a youth marksmanship air rifle. They also created a marksmanship program for it that is still being held, as far as I know. The Daisy BB gun championships have been held since 1966. At one period they were called international championships, but today the title is national.
Because of its marksmanship features, most particularly the sights, the 99 was well-suited to competition, but the moment there was a championship, clever coaches started looking for an edge for their teams. Since the trigger was already good they concentrated on accuracy. By swapping shot tubes until they found one that was accurate, coaches gave their team members a decided advantage. Daisy officials have told me that it wasn’t uncommon for a coach to order 20 shots tubes, only to return 18 of them for credit. He was testing each tube to see if it was good. That eventually got recognized by Daisy, but it took 20 years.
Daisy 299
In 1975 Daisy brought out their 299 Target Special that was a thousand-shot air rifle with gravity feed. Isnt’t it interesting that they went back to gravity feed on the 299 that was supposed to be a better target gun, but left the 99 with a forced-feed magazine? They must have seen that the forced-feed shot tube wasn’t the answer, because coaches were swapping them. Well, the gravity-feed magazine wasn’t the answer, either.
The 299 lasted just two years, but it spawned two other Daisys — the 2299 Quick Kill BB gun and the Lucky McDaniels Instinct Shooter! The model 99 continued until 1979, but when the 299 went away in 1976 it was replaced by another gun we know all too well — the single-shot 499 that we know as the world’s most accurate BB gun.
More description
The air rifle I am testing for you is 36-1/2-inches long and weighs exactly 3 pounds. The metal is finished with a tough electrostatic paint that on the test rifle remains on over 98 percent of the area.
The cocking lever is aluminum and the cocking effort is light, for those who may remember their older Daisy lever actions that didn’t cock so easily. And speaking of the coking lever, I found something extremely interesting on this air rifle — a second place to oil. Everyone should know the importance of oil to a BB gun. When they get dry they lose all power and the BB barely comes out. Oil the plunger (what a spring-gunner would call the piston) and the power is restored. It’s so important that it’s stamped on the gun next to the oil hole. But I found a second place to oil. It looks like they want you to oil the rear of the plunger assembly, because that is what is inside the gun at the spot indicated.
The traditional oil hole is on top of the spring tube. This is for the plunger seal (piston seal).
A second place to oil the air rifle.
Comparison to the 499
I don’t normally make comparisons between airguns, but I’m making an exception with this one. This was the forerunner of the 499 that I have tested for you many times and as such it bears a word. Why go to the 499 if the 99 worked? Well — it didn’t work — at least not to the extent Daisy wanted it to.
The trigger on the test rifle is one of the nicest Bb gun triggers I have ever tested. It’s certainly nicer than my 499 trigger. The aluminum blade is straight and the single-stage pull is light and smooth. The 499 feels heavy and gritty in comparison. Oh, coaches around the nation have learned how to make the 499 trigger better, and given the liability issues of the day I suppose it is as good a trigger as we can expect, but I must say that the 99 trigger on my new test rifle is a thing of beauty.
The trigger blade is straight, which you want on a target rifle.
Summary
I bought this BB gun because the price was right and it is a scarce first variation of an iconic air rifle line. I never anticipated like it as much as I do now. All I can say is I sure hope this one turns out to be accurate!
B.B.,
Maybe you should link the old report on the 499: /blog/2008/05/daisy-avanti-499-champion-part-2-the-worlds-most-accurate-bb-gun/ although it didn’t use the 3-part format you are using now.
Siraniko
B.B.,
A very nice history lesson on the precursors to the 499. I have a 75th Red Ryder and can definitely say without hesitation that it’s cocking effort is absolutely awful when compared to the 499. It is interesting that the trigger is better on this one, compared to the 499.
Good Day to you and to all,… Chris
BB,
LOL! Now you know why I rave about mine! I am afraid any other bb gun would have to be exceptional for me to even consider it. Not even the legendary 499 could take it’s place.
The trigger on mine is phenomenal. The cocking is light, quick and smooth. I am thinking of a recoil slip on so as to lengthen the pull. I do wish I had some other sight inserts for it. Are they still available from Daisy?
RR,
Good luck on finding a slip on for added LOP. I would like one for the 499. The LimbSaver brand is awesome and very grippy and pliable, but even the small is too large. I tried some others on the TX and LGU and they were junk in comparison.
Chris,
I was kind of afraid of that. I will do some measuring before I buy one. The stock is thicker on the 99.
RR,
Why don’t you just make an other stock that fits properly?
Hank
Hank,
Serious consideration is being given to an overhaul that would include refinishing of all metal parts and walnut stocks. A longer shoulder stock just may happen. 😉
RR,
Walnut is nice – I like walnut with a natural finish.
Just refinishing the rosewood FT stock for my TX 200 – that has some really nice grain on it. I’ve been experimenting with some “wood furniture oil” products with good results. Been finding the urethane finishes to be looking too much like “plastic-encapsulated wood” to suit my current tastes.
Hank,
I too hate the shiny stuff. A nice hand rubbed oil finish is my preference. The walnut stock on my Tomahawk does not have much figure, but the finish is nice. Having been a hunter most of my life, shiny is just not where I want to go.
RR,
I think the inserts are the same ones the 499 uses, so they should still; be available.
B.B.
BB,
That is what I am thinking. I will contact Daisy and find out.
B.B.,
These old, pre-499 Daisy target BB guns have interested me for years, so I am eager to read your future installments on this one.
The trigger looks unlike any other Daisy BB trigger I can recall. Also, the front sight tube is pretty rough-looking inside, but hey, if it does the job . . . . Are inserts still readily available?
Michael
Michael,
I think the inserts are the same as the 499 sight. RR is checking with Daisy.
B.B.
Question about feed mechanisms and accuracy on the BB guns…
The 499 billed as the most accurate BB gun and it is a single shot muzzle loader.
Considering that steel BBs are not likely to be deformed in the magazine and they are held in position with a magnet, would there be any technical reason that the 499 could be magazine fed?
Just seems that muzzle loading is a little inconvenient.
Welcome to July… Happy Monday!! 🙂
Hank
Hank,
That tight barrel is the reason for muzzle loading. Did you know that Harry Pope built his breechloaders to have their bullets muzzle loaded? It was for a different reason, but they were called muzzle loading breechloaders.
That said, I suppose a magazine would be possible. But target arms are typically single shot so I guess Daisy never saw the need.
If I hadn’t argued with them in the 1990s, they wouldn’t have ever sold the 499 to the public. They didn’t think people would pay the price, and were shocked by the response.
B.B.
B.B.
Thanks for the feed-back! Yes, target arms are typically single shot and I am good with the reasons for that.
Guess I was thinking along the same lines as GF1 – an accurate BB repeater.
Had a Model 25 for a short time, liked the action but was disappointed in the power and accuracy (relative to my Slavia 618) so I sold it. Great gun for making a can dance around 🙂 Was wondering (idly) about fitting a 499 barrel and a stronger spring to a 25 to address those issues – hence the question.
Will research the muzzle loading breechloaders.
Hank
Hank,
I was so intrigued by your question that I made muzzle loading breechloaders the subject of tomorrow’s post.
B.B.
B.B.
Great!! Looking forward to your blog on them!
Hank
Hank
Another reason I asked if the 499 barrel would fit in the 99. Is that maybe someone has a nice 99 but the barrel is messed up. So the gun is unoperable. Then put a 499 barrel and you got a nice old 99 to shoot.
Hank,
While you may have already saved this site… these guys have done about (everything) that can be done to a bb gun/rifle.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/putting-a-little-more-power-in-a-15-00-daisy.807316/page-9
Without looking again,… I am sure that the 499 barrel has come into play more than once. Custom made parts and barrel turning and all of that good stuff! Since you now have a lathe/mill, that sounds right up your alley.
The link is from Cobalt, which used to post here.
Chris
Thanks for the link Chris – bookmarked it!
Been having fun with the lathe/mill – stock hardware can now be easily modified into custom parts 🙂
Have a good one eh!
Hank
BB
So will a 499 barrel fit in the older guns like you have?
GF1,
The question shot be — can the 499 barrel me made to fit into… The answer would be yes, because people are so clever. But it’s much easier to just modify the trigger than to do all the machining required for a project like this. At least I think it is. I will never try it myself because I’m satisfied withy my 499 as it stands.
B.B.
BB
Your happy with the 499. And that’s good.
But what I mean is. If a person got a 99 and wasn’t happy with accuracy. Could a 499 barrel go in a 99?
Then better accuracy could be had with the older gun.
GF1,
Same answer.
B.B.
BB
Ok I was hoping the barrel would be drop in.
Oh well so much for easy. As it goes.
B.B.,
On a personal note,… I was on the Daystate site awhile back and noted that in their advertising/history,… they used the words,.. “world beating”. I remembered that distinctly when I first saw that term, used by you, that I thought it quite odd. You explained to me that “back in the day”,… that phrase was quite common.
At any rate,…. I thought that you might be interested in that the term is still being bantered about. I know that I was.
Chris
Chris,
Everything old is new again.
B.B.
I have a much newer version. I can’t say it is super accurate but I get to spend more time on the trigger and less time digging through the pellet tins. It reminds me of cub scout camp where I could get away with shooting B.B. guns!
Took me a second 🙂
Gunfun1, the 499 shot tube is not going to work in a 99, at least not as a plug and play swap. The abutments are totally different and even the barrel portion if the shot tubes are different lengths and different ODs, making it harder yet to use the 499 barrel. I found that interesting that the 499 barrel is just 9″ long. Forgot how to post a photo but I’ll try:
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/f/f4/25_shot_tube_over_499_w-specs.jpg
[img]http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/f/f4/25_shot_tube_over_499_w-specs.jpg[/img]
No big deal but the lever isn’t correct on the model 99 shown above. It should have the lever that has three stars and scrollwork- the nicest Daisy lever design in my humble opinion. The one shown if from the ’70s.
853 sight inserts fit my 99 (1974) just fine. The shot tube is the same as the Model 25. (I have both, but just the one shot tube.)