The Diana two forty.
This report covers:
- Integrix
- The test
- RWS Superpoints
- Air Arms Field
- Why scope the rifle?
- H&N Excite Econ II wadcutters
- JSB Exact RS
- RWS R10 Match Heavy
- Trigger
- The takeaway
- Next
- Summary
Today we look at the Diana two forty again. This time I mount a scope, so we can see how it compares the the groups I shot with open sights in Part 4.
I linked to the description of the Diana 240 because Pyramyd AIR is selling the two forty but has it listed as the 240. The Diana 240 is a German airgun that’s been discontinued. The Diana two forty is made in China for Diana and isn’t the same as the model 240 that’s been discontinued. And the two forty is the model Pyramyd AIR is selling.
Integrix
Today’s test is one I’ve been waiting for. I get to put a $1400 scope on a $100 air rifle. That’s like putting a $2700 set of Formula One racing tires on a Smart Car. The rifle will not be more accurate because the scope costs so much. I just wanted to do it and, because I have the 2-12X36 Integrix scope for testing, I can.
I mounted the scope and shimmed the rings like I always do, but that may have been a mistake. The Integrix seems not to need shimming. Remember, the Integrix has a 34mm tube so larger rings are needed to mount it Fortunately Leapers sent a set of rings with the scope.
The groups are all to the right of the bulls and a bit high, probably because of my shimming. I left things as they were today so I could complete the test, but if I leave the Integrix on the two forty awhile I will probably correct the mounting.
The test
I shot the rifle off a sandbag rest at 10 meters, with the rifle rested directly on the bag. I used the same pellets that were used in the Part 4 test with open sights, plus I added one pellet that reader Motorman said worked best in his two forty. Well, I meant to use all the same pellets. By mistake I grabbed the JSB Exact RS pellets instead of the heavier JSB Exact Express pellets, so there was one change.
Today we get to compare groups between pellets shot using open sights in Part 4 and the same pellets (or at least three of the same pellets) using a scope. Normally I would tell you that scopes don’t increase your accuracy, but the reason for today’s test is I felt this time a scope would help. I will explain why in a bit. Let’s see what happened.
RWS Superpoints
First to be tested were RWS Superpoints. In Part 4 using open sights the two forty put 10 Superpoints into a group that measures 0.757-inches between centers. With a scope that shrank down to 1.195-inches between centers.
The scoped two forty put ten RWS Superpoints into a 1.195-inch group at 10 meters.
What’s this? The group GREW when a scope was used? Yes it did! Now, seven of those pellets are in 0.562-inches, but the other three pellets are all legitimate shots and there were no called pulls. And yes, to answer your questions, I did check all the stock screws and the scope screws before shooting. At this point in the test I wondered what rabbit hole I was running down.
Air Arms Field
Next to be tested were Air Arms Field pellets. They come in two head sizes and I shot the ones with 4.52mm heads. In Part 4 ten made a 0.725-inches. The scoped rifle put ten in 0.385-inches at 10 meters. Now, that was what I was expecting!
The two forty put ten Air Arms Field pellets into 0.385-inches at 10 meters.
Why scope the rifle?
Now I will tell you why I thought a scope would help things with the two forty. If you look back at the groups in Part 4, most of them have a large number of pellets in the same place with a few outliers. Either my eyes were off that day or the sights on the two forty are somehow fooling me. Either way, the scope seems to have cleared it up. But there are still three more pellets to shoot, so let’s get on with it.
H&N Excite Econ II wadcutters
Hoot mon! Ye canna buy a cheaper wadcutter. So dig deep into yer sporran and fetch out $5.99 for a tin of 500 H&N Excite Econ II pellets. In Part 4 ten of these pellets made a 0.869-inch group with open sights, and again there was a smaller group within the larger one that stayed together. Today ten went into 0.777-inches, which isn’t that much smaller, but nine of them are in 0.365-inches. A lone flier was not a called pull. It just went there on the first shot. Oh, the temptation to Photoshop that one out! But I left it in to show you my dirty laundry.
The two forty put ten Excite Econ II pellets in 0.777-inches, with nine in 0.365 inches at 10 meters.
JSB Exact RS
This is the pellet that wasn’t in the last test. The two forty put ten of them in 0.533-inches at 10 meters. And the one shot that is off to the high right was the last shot. Wouldn’t you figure? BB got flustered and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Ten JSB Exact RS pellets went onto 0.533-inches at 10 meters.
RWS R10 Match Heavy
The last pellet I tested was one reader Motorman recommended from his testing of his two forty two years ago — the RWS R10 Match Heavy wadcutter. My two forty put ten of them into a 0.643-inch group at 10 meters.
The two forty put ten RWS R10 Match Heavy pellets into a 0.643-inch group at 10 meters.
Trigger
The trigger is still quite heavy, but I’m now getting some shots where it’s lighter. I do think it is wearing in.
The takeaway
The two forty I’m testing seems a little picky about which pellets it likes. But it also seems quite accurate when it shoots the pellets it likes.
I still don’t know whether a scope is necessary on this rifle. I would prefer not to have to scope it and I sure won’t leave a premium scope like the Integrix mounted. That was just me having a little fun.
I know you want me to shoot it at 25 yards and for that I will leave the Integrix mounted. I may adjust it so it isn’t shooting so high and far to the right.
Next
I’ll shoot for accuracy at 25 yards next. After that I want to take the action apart and see what’s inside. I might get a chance to lighten the trigger and we will get to see what the powerplant looks like.
Summary
The two forty is still holding up well. I suppose most people will scope it, so accuracy will be pretty good. I’m having fun with it!
MUST NOT BE ENABLED, MUST NOT BE ENABLED, MUSTNOT…..
OhioPlinker,
Would you like a 6 pack of H&N Excite Econ II wadcutters with your order Sir? With our 3+1 offer that gives you a total of 8 tins!
Siraniko
Why not. It’s a great value. I’m about to buy one. Tell you what. If you get one and don’t like it, I’ll buy it from you. That’s what you call a safe bet.
I finally got a “round-to-it” and made a few o-ring / seal removal tools. The smaller ones are 1/16 inch brass welding rod and the larger are 1/8 inch brass welding rods. I cut each about 6 inches long then shaped with a file to get the flat ones and a drill and file for the round ones the final variation was hammered flat and filed smooth. I also used a Dremel wire brush to smooth all the edges. The pictures are 5x.
The system would not accept two pictures. Here is the smaller picks.
Thanks so very much for the pics! Greatly appreciated!
;^)
B.B.
My first air rifle cost $200, I put a $300 scope on it.
You can always have better glass….
-Y
BB,
Great results.
I’m not surprised by the JSB Exact RS group;
those pellets have proved accurate in both rifles and pistols here at the farm. 😉
Looking forward to the 25 yard testing,
dave
BB,
This picky pellet thing really bugs me. Is it head diameter compared to skirt diameter, head shape, skirt thickness, pellet length, design, weight or weight balance and how they react to the rifling.
Like my old co-worker who had to find the exact electron that caused a problem, I would really like to know why any given pellet performs as it does and avoid trying out dozens of them trying to find the best one in any airgun.
What makes the best all round pellet best? And why doesn’t it work best in every airgun? Or which pellet works best in which rifling configuration, barrel length, or power setting. The great unknown!
An unsolved problem I don’t really want to jump into but want answers to. There is a reason for everything, and an airguns performance is so dependent on a specific pellet type that needs to be found for optimal performance.
It may even determine how a new airgunner reacts to shooting in the long run.
Bob M,
Good luck. I have an old BSA that really likes RWS Superdomes. I have an old FLZ that really likes RWS Hollow Points. I have a Webley Service MK 2 that likes Crosman HPs. My Diana 34 so far seems to like JSB Exacts. My Izzy likes RWS R10s. So on and so forth, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, yadayadayada. This is why I have several Wilkins Pellet Pouches.
Unfortunately, not even two identical models will necessarily like the same pellet. Without trial and error, you are not going to find THE pellet for a particular air rifle. A prime example of this is shown above with Motorman’s Two Forty liking the RWS R10 and BB’s Two Forty seemingly preferring the Air Arms Field. I have some pellets you would not even dream of owning. You just never know.
As a general rule of thumb, I will usually start with JSB Exacts. They are short, have a very thin skirt and are made of very soft lead. They seem to work fairly decent in many airguns.
Ditto what RidgeRunner said: JSB Exacts are the pellet I try first with an airgun before trying others. 🙂
“This picky pellet thing really bugs me. Is it head diameter compared to skirt diameter, head shape, skirt thickness, pellet length, design, weight or weight balance and how they react to the rifling.”
YES. ;o)
Hey Bob,
Get a .20 caliber gun. There are only 3 decent pellets to try.
I used to think lack of pellet selection was a problem with .20 caliber guns.
Now I think it is one of their best benefits!
-Y
Yogi, roger that!
And in my old .20 caliber Sheridan, JSB Exacts (13.73-grain) perform very well.
They are far superior to the old Sheridan straight-walled (yellow box) or Sheridan Diabolo pellets (red box).
One more score for JSB Exacts…and one good pellet per airgun is all you need. 😉
Yogi,
Sounds like a solution looking for a problem. Would need to get a .20 Cal. airgun to decide which pellet works best in it. I think?
BB,
At that price, it is very difficult to put a decent scope that costs less than the air rifle on top, but an Integrex? I know, you had it so why not? I have a brand new Hawke that has yet to find a home. It will likely be on the Talon SS, but one never knows.
P.S. Second sentence.
This time I mount a scope, so we can see how it compares the (to) the groups I shot with open sights in Part 4.
Hi everyone, I want to introduce myself and make a few comments. I am a 69-year old and trying to learn how to shoot better. I believe that being able to shoot air guns at a target in the basement is going to let me get the most practice due to convenience, etc. So, I made a backstop using a container and rubber mulch, etc. I am enjoying this blog (especially the “Teach Me to Shoot” series) and have already learned a lot. So, thank you BB and Pyramyd AIR and the others who contribute to the blog. Somehow I managed to order a Diana Two Forty from Pyramyd AIR last week. I just happened to look and instead of preorder, it was available. I shoot left handed due to my left eye being dominant because my right eyesight is very poor (lazy eye). My Two Forty also has a very heavy trigger that sometimes lightens up. And I feel that the heavy trigger could be a contributing cause of the “flyers” that do not stay with the main groups. So I am looking forward to reading about what BB finds out when he takes the rifle apart.
Elmer,
Welcome to the blog. I hope you will continue to share your experiences with your two forty. So far it sounds a lot like mine.
One one last thing, “Be vewy vewy careful. We are hunting wabbit!”
BB
Thanks for the warm welcome BB. Yes, I do hope to be able to contribute something interesting. I imagine I will have some questions also.
Elmer Fudd
“My Two Forty also has a very heavy trigger that sometimes lightens up. And I feel that the heavy trigger could be a contributing cause of the “flyers” that do not stay with the main groups. So I am looking forward to reading about what BB finds out when he takes the rifle apart.”
You are learning quick. At this rate you will be teaching us soon. Welcome to my favorite pastime.
Deck
Thanks Deck, this is a hobby for me too. I hope to learn a lot.
Thanks Guys, for the encouraging … word, words, on ‘Picky Pellets.”
Think I will wait for Artificial Intelligence to enter the Airgun world. 🙂
I think I could spend the rest of my life trying to find the perfect pellet for all the Airguns I have.
And then the BB’s !
My problem would be, If I find the perfect pallet, how will I know there is not a ‘more perfecter’ one out there unless I try every one, with more than one tin of each. You know it could only be from one batch and not another. 😉
See my above comment!
-Y
Yogi,
Yep, your comment above had me nodding my head in strong agreement. (Nevertheless, if more pellet manufacturers would again produce more .20 pellets, I would not complain. :^)
Michael
I feel your pain.
How about this one: my 362 seems to prefer different pellets at different numbers of pumps. Testing for the perfect pellet has become like a game of 3 dimensional chess from Star Trek.
Roamin,
Oh … I feel much better knowing that. 🙁
BB
I believe the first shot after a pellet type change should be counted only as a bore break in shot. I continue to see it happen randomly but far too often to ignore.
Deck
As recently as last night, I was testing pellets in a new (to me) airgun, and when I changed pellets, shot 1 went to a similar spot as the group from the prior pellet, shot 2 went way down and slightly left, shot 3 was up a bit from shot 2, then the next five went into the same cloverleaf-shaped hole near shot 1. Of course, then I lost my focus and blew it! I have repeated that scenario many times.
Of course, I have read that it sometimes takes 20 pellets to “season” a bore to a new pellet, but even I don’t have the patience or the pellets to waste on that. If I don’t see a consistent group developing by the 10th pellet, justifying a second group of ten to confirm, I either adjust my hold or move on to another pellet.
The cool thing that happened last night was I got a group with H&N Excite Plinking pellets that bettered the groups with JSBs and equalled the Meisterkugelns. I love when that happens!
Roamin
Yes, especially when able to confirm it with more groups.
Deck
Tom,
I agree about scopes and weak eyes. I am much better shooting my Diana Model 28, even at short distances, with the scope thedavemyster generously gave me a short while back. With open sights my vision issues made my use of iron sights a mess, but that scope helps tremendously.
As you have written many times, aperture sights are a different matter. On the air rifles I have with apertures, I still shoot decently. (But not as well as my 28 with that scope from thedavemyster.)
This is a good opportunity for me to again thank thedavemyster for his wonderful gift!
Michael
P.S. An expensive scope on an inexpensive air rifle makes perfect sense. Would a Honda Civic with high-end tires drive at least a little better than the same car with discount tires? Everything else being equal, yes, probably.
Michael
I really enjoy my Diana 28 I got at Newton airgun show (Hickory, NC). It fits in between Diana 35 and HW30S fpe and cocking effort. It delivers typical German accuracy and is a beauty too.
Deck
Deck,
Sounds like the one I have. I couldn’t tell mine was accurate because my eyes have gotten so bad until thedavemyster gave me a scope. Scoped, it is accurate even with my being the shooter. In size mine is similar to a contemporary Diana 34, but has less power and is probably a bit easier cocking.
Michael
Reading this, and the especially the comments, I have this to add:
I’ve had many discussions with Pelletgage customers about their guns, and pellet selection. Some with people who have little experience, and others who are expert. They provide interesting feedback in most cases. I follow the results of airgun match competitions, especially when they show the equipment and pellet choices used by the shooters. In my own field target experience, I’ve met some shooters who have carefully tried many options. And, the question of what I recommend is pretty common – so I have given it a lot of thought.
I consider that JSB has the best consistency and ballistics based on seeing absolute domination in competition matches who report ammo selection. And, in my own experience, they group well in every gun I own, going back to my old standby Marauder field target rifle, my .177 CZ634 (the first airgun I owned that could group 1 MOA), and my surprisingly accurate .22 Avenger. My brother (who first got me into airguns) has a collection of nice rifles, and he feels the same way. He’s a very technical guy.
And, I look back on the air rifles and firearms I own and shoot, and what choices I made after recommendations and trials. In the case of my pistols, I long ago decided to go with the 9 mm round for all of them, based on availability, cost, and quality that can be readily obtained . I don’t regret that at all. Same with my 7.62 x 39 rifles. I know, there are a world of choices out there and reasons to go other directions. The idea is, choose the ammo first, and then get a gun for that ammo.
In the case of air rifles, my personal attitude is that if it will shoot a 4.52 mm (in 8.4 or 10.3 gr) JSB Exact Diabolo (or 5.52 mm 18.13 gr) pellet well, that’s a big plus. JSB has a high capacity manufacturing operation that may be the biggest, and has demonstrated solid process control. They are not inexpensive, but a good value while being widely available.
I see lot-to-lot variations (and even individuals in a tin) in these pellets that can be significant in competitions, especially benchrest with the best equipment. There are tins that have more variation, but at the base level, that’s my conclusion. They are the best all-around.
There are of course, many reasons to try different pellets in a specific gun, but even from that view, it is usually the case that these pellets perform well.
FWIW,
Jerry
Jerry
I’m no competition shooter but do shoot a lot. I agree with you about JSB pellets and would include AA pellets which JSB manufactures on dies owned by AA we are told.
Thanks for your Pelletgages and helpful tips including Vessel phillips head screw drivers.
Deck
Yes, Deck, I have several friends who believe that AA branded JSB pellets are more consistent. I’ve only sampled a few AA tins for head size, and they were pretty good.
Take a look at this link:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/searching-for-4-52-pellets.439241/
And you are welcome!
Jerry,
Thanks for the info. Must admit I have stuck with JSB’s for pesting in my FX.
Plinking never demanded perfection so I would play around with others in various airguns but if I move into target shooting, I would like to be able to say it’s not the pellets’ fault.
The plan … stick with JSB until something else proves it works better. Unless of course, it’s full-auto time and anything goes.
Being a professional aircraft troubleshooter, I am prone to Analysis Paralysis sometimes and never give up trying. to come up with the right or better solutions.
B.B. and Readership,
What JerryC has written is likely true about JSB.
I can still remember when Crossman made pellets that they put in brown cardboard boxes with lot numbers…PREMIER they called them… Air Gunners swore by them….
But one thing has remained the same; so called FLYERS.
If you shoot outside the WIND is still the biggest factor in blown groups. There are other environmental (not the GREEN kind) factors that blow groups both inside and outside to a lesser degree but are still greater than THE PELLET can overcome. Since those factors all change over time, often minute by minute, find a projectile that meets your minimum group size required and call it good.
Only do the things that are known to be truly controllable by YOU. Inspect your projectiles, use a Pellet/Projectilegage, and weigh them if you have the time and patience; anything more is just another one of those many Rabbit Holes that B.B. talks about so frequently.
DISPERSION HAPPENS!
shootski
Shootski,
The reason that I try to find the ‘best’ (most accurate) pellets for my airguns is that if I have a good performing pellet/airgun combo, then the misses/bad shots are on my inability to properly execute.
For the most part, if my non-benchrest groups are within minute-of-squirrel, I am satisfied.
(But, hey, if I could blame my inaccuracy on environmental issues like global warming, I’d be happy!)
Bill
I have a question.
We all know about harmonics, especially when shooting a springer
PCP Airguns not as much, because there is very little mechanical movement of the gun, but in long term testing the Avengers and the JTS Airacudas, I have found that by putting tight fitting 3D printed rubber dampeners (instead if the factory hard plastic or metal ones) in the shrouds of pcp rifles, the consistency of the groups improved (less uncalled fliers).
On springers the whole mechanism is moving, vibrating, and shimmying with every shot.
That’s why Tom developed the Artillery hold, and it changed the way Airgunners shoot springers. But even that is a different hold for different guns.
Now my question, does adding a scope to a springer introduce a different harmonic wave pattern in the Airgun?
I mean, it’s almost 1/5 the weight of the gun being added an inch or so above the axis of the bore and spring travel.
That has got to change the harmonics of the Airgun.
Ian.
45Bravo,
The PCPs are not immune from the vibrations and harmonics of the Gremlins! In any pressure vessel there are waves that crash back and forth whenever a change to the volume or gas pressure is altered. In one aircraft i flew it had three complete hydraulic systems running at 3,000 psi. In order to back one another up they were connected. Apparently the systems tried to destroy one another so they added a Quinckey’s Tube interconnect to dampen out all the junk:
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/408506/how-does-quinckes-tube-work
Firearm barrels do the same thing. Barrels have been shown to ring like tuned tube you just don’t harit because of the report. Ever hear the PING of a Marauder’s air reservoir?
It isn’t just spring pistons that have all kinds of vibrations. Your scope changes the tune of the system and can either enhance or suppress all, some select, or specific harmonics.
Not much other than a few books worth of information needed to really answer your question.
shootski
PS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Hermann_Quincke
I know they aren’t immune to the harmonics that’s why wen3D print TPU(rubber) dampeners that fit tightly between the barrel and shroud.
The placement of the dampeners along the barrel also affect the harmonics.
I was mostly wondering from you springer guys do you think adding a scope to a springer can change the harmonics of the gun and thereby the accuracy of a springer. Until you find the correct NEW pellet or hold that it likes for the new harmonic vibrations?
Yes I am old enough to remember and use the rubber limb saver barrel tuner that was sold for firearms.
Oh if you think the marauder had a bad ping, watch some of Rick eustlers videos of the prototype JTS Standard air rifle.
I have 3 of the prototype JTS airguns and the standard model has a wicked ping, even with the wooden stock, it is like shooting a tuning fork.
I am glad they addressed it in the production guns.
Ian.
Ian,
I’m an EARLY DARKSIDER and only bought a springer (GAS) for myself when the SIG SSG ASP20 was almost done being sold! I was lucky and got a wood .177 and then a synthetic .22 caliber from SIG that some retailer returned as unopened box from unsold inventory.
Good to know about the JTS preproduction rifles.
None of my DAQs, BIG BORE or little bore, have a PING that i have detected. Likely no ping because Dennis builds his valves Integral to his reservoirs.
I have mounted scopes other than my SIG ASP WHISKEY3 scopes on the two gas springers and not seen a directly relatable POI shift. That means next to nothing though…i think.
So some other reader with wy moe pringr xperience needs to answer your scope mounting effect on POI on springers; maybe Yogi?
shootski
Some springers seem to be more sensitive to others. Ridgerunner has told us of a springer that would change its point of impact just because he put his thumb on a different spot on the back of the pistol grip of the stock. Putting a scope on that gun would certainly have some effect.
A scope attached to the spring tube would in my mind have some dampening effect, similar to a heavier gun recoiling less,, or one with more wood in the stock (think FWB 300S), the problem is measuring it. Are tighter groups from the dampening effect of the scope or the ability to aim more precisely than with open sights? How much of each?
I think one way to find out is super slow motion video. One can look for the difference in the movement of the barrel. I’m sure someone can devise a way to do it. It would sure be fascinating.
Hello, I am new here. Love your blog. Dont know if this is the place to ask this, but have you thought about taking those pellets that shoot tight groups, and then shooting match heads at same distance? I was thinking of this today, as I shot. I have tight groups when bullseye shooting. But, match head shooting is much more fun and informative! Especially when done together.
Welcome! That’s some serious shooting you’re doing there…I like it. 🙂
Not many places left where you can play with fire. How about putting out candles. Action targets are always fun for plinkers. Suggest you use a moniker instead of your email address.
Red,
Welcome to the blog. I usually don’t shoot wadcutters when I shoot at distances because in my experience they start opening up around 20-25 yards. Is that your experience, as well?
BB
“Carport shooting” (Or rather, shooting from the carport, not at it!)
Off topic, but still airgun related.
It’s been in the 110+ zone (if you include the Heat Index) here for several days now.
To me, that’s too hot to be out with most of my airguns.
But the old Daisy Buck, bought for the whopping sum of $14.67 (the last one; they wanted it gone =>),
has been getting some use.
The nice thing is, I can sit in the carport, in the shade. I put a can out at 25 feet, then keep on shooting it till I can’t hit it anymore. The old Buck is sighted in at 30 feet; at 15 yards, it still shoots right on, but at 20 yards, I have to hold at the top of the can. When it rolls, or flips, to 25 yards (which I can tell because it is past the hard pan of the driveway), I have to do the Elmer Keith thing, and start holding up a lot of front sight.
Still, it’s surprising how far you can hit a can with this simple little BB gun with a HEAVY trigger.
I’ve lost count of the thousands of BBs I’ve put through this gun.
I’m still living in the past, making up for all the time that 6-year-old-dave, 8-year-old-dave, and 10-year-old-dave did NOT get to shoot a BB gun because they weren’t allowed to have one!
After another 10,000 or so BBs, I think those old daves of the past will be happy. LOL!
Happy shooting to all. 🙂
Dave, grown-ups just did not understand the need. Who knows, if I was able to shoot airguns I may not have taken up joyriding, in other people’s cars, at 16.
At 17, I could not even drive my own 69 T Bird after dark without an “Adult” in the car. (NYC Law) Fortunately, my best friend was 18, but he did not own a car yet.
Thank God I never followed up on eating all the chocolate covered jelly bars and ice cream sandwiches I could buy when I “Grew up.” Airguns are a different story!
Bob, you get where I’m coming from. 😉
Whoa! A 69 T Bird…sweet! What a ride…that’s awesome. 🙂
Dave,
Was awesome. I stopped driving it when I wound up sitting on the floor of the rear seat still holding the steering wheel. It pushed me and the back of the driver’s seat there when I hit a draw bridge beam head on.
Learned about speeding on bald tires on wet, smooth, steel bridge grating early on. The hood that opened from the rear caught on the wiper blades and folded in half straight up and down.
Called dad, he grabbed a small toolbox to fix everything, right !
He was dumbfounded that I actually survived. The engine was almost inside the car.
Mom asked me why I had a Band-Aid on my chin. “The steering wheel cut me when I totaled out the car. It pushed me through the seat back.”
“No really … what happened?” “The hinges broke off.” “Stop it, what really happened?”
Thank God you walked away from that!
The Good Lord was surely looking out for you that day! 🙂
Dave,
I got confused. It was a ‘1959’ T Bird. My Mustangs are 1969.
Gotcha 😉
Bob M,
Thanks for the correction! I just couldn’t feature you in a 1969 T Bird…maybe a Thunderjet Torino or more likely a Cobra Jet two seater!
Those rear Suicide Doors on the 4 door T Birds were just “Lincoln” WRONG!
Shootski
I turned 22 in ’69, far cry from 17. Lost interest in T Birds after ’66. But I did own a old ’74 T Boat. Got it very cheap to give to my daughter. They said it had a blown engine, but I replaced a $5.00 intake valve spring and fixed it.
My daughter just rolled her eyes and walked away. She wanted a VW Rabbit. Gave it to a friend of mine who wanted (needed) it to live in.
Saved money since I was 12 to get that ’59. Next was a $50.00 ’56 2dr Mercury. Wrote on it, “God bless this lousy car.” And He must have for all I put it through. Snapped a leaf spring once drag racing. The good old days!
Here is what I shot first thing this morning with my Diana two-forty “from the bench” after not shooting for about a week. I used a support on the fore stock and a rear support. Iron sights using my computer glasses (I can see the front sight well, but the target at 10-meters is rather blurry). I used the six o’clock target image as BB teaches, so the aim point was at the bottom of the bullseye. A ten shot group that is about a half-inch center to center. I can say that there is a lot of good information on this blog that helped guide my efforts. Thanks everyone!