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Ammo Weihrauch HW 100 S FSB PCP rifle: Part 3

Weihrauch HW 100 S FSB PCP rifle: Part 3

by B.B. Pelletier

Part 1
Part 2

This is the actual rifle I’m testing. Isn’t that wood beautiful?

Before I begin, at the end of this report there is a lengthy Q&A section in which Dr. Mirfee Ungier, wife of Pyramyd AIR owner Joshua Ungier, answers a number of questions about protective eyewear and other related shooting issues. Dr. Ungier is a respected ophthalmologist with thousands of successful surgeries to her credit, and she agreed to answer readers’ questions about protective eyewear.

Today, we’ll look at the accuracy of the HW 100 S FSB PCP air rifle I’m testing. Throughout this report, I’ve mentioned how impressed I am with this airgun for various reasons. It has the easiest-loading metal rotary clip in the business. You can see the pellets advance in the clip, and now I know that you can even see them when a scope is mounted. That makes the rifle very easy to manage — like knowing when you’re shooting the last shot. And, then, there’s the trigger! This one is perfect for me. It breaks cleanly at 8 oz. and has a positive two-stage release. I couldn’t ask for more.

The rifle is light, or at least it feels light when you hold it. The scale disagrees, but I can’t get away from the lightness I feel. Also, the stock happens to fit me perfectly. Though that’s a very personal thing, you can’t overlook it when it works out your way.

On the down side, I noted that the rifle recoils about the same as a heavy .22 rimfire rifle shooting standard speed ammo. It’s an unfamiliar feeling to have a smallbore PCP recoil. The shot count that the chronograph said could be as high as 38 shots on a fill actually turned out to be about 25, like I first noted. I will show you the evidence on two of the targets.

For this test, I mounted an older version of the Leapers 8-32x56AO scope that was used in the test of the Crosman Outdoorsman 2250. While it was too much scope for the little carbine, it was a perfect fit on the Weihrauch PCP. And, it allowed me to see the bulls at 50 yards very clearly. It was mounted in two-piece B-Square adjustable scope mounts that are no longer available. I’ll soon be showing you a new adjustable scope mount that may solve your scope adjustment problems, in case you do not already own one of these vintage American-made B-Squares.

On the big HW 100, the Leapers 8-32×56 looks right. It’s mounted in a vintage high B-Square adjustable mount that’s no longer available.

Accurate right from the get-go
I enjoy shooting accurate guns, because they cooperate to produce such wonderful results with so little work. The HW 100 is one of those. Even the sight-in group was impressive enough to show you. I selected the 18.1-grain JSB Jumbo Exact Heavy as my sight-in pellet, simply because one owner said he got such good results with it in his .22 rifle.

This is the sight-in group — the first 10 shots made after the scope was mounted. It’s ten 18.1-grain JSB Exact Jumbos at 50 yards and it measures 0.795 inches between centers. It’s the largest group fired with this pellet.

Then, I settled down and shot a couple more groups with the same pellet. I’d adjusted the point of impact to the exact center of the crosshairs, so on the first group I shot out the aiming point with the first couple shots.

Ten more JSB Exact Jumbos went into this group, which measures 0.667 inches between centers. This is a phenomenal group. After the first couple shots, I had to estimate the location of the center of the bull because it had been shot away.

Learned something important
I tried to shoot a third group of 10 shots, and this is when I learned that the HW 100 doesn’t like to shoot that many shots per fill. At least, it doesn’t if you expect accuracy at 50 yards. Look at the grouping and I will explain.

The first two shots went through the center of the bull. The next two shots are at 5 o’clock on the edge of the black. The rifle is now low on air and the point of impact just shifted as a result. This is part of the proof I mentioned in the beginning of this report that the rifle falls off the performance curve very suddenly.

It occurred to me that I may not have filled the rifle to the exact maximum on the first fill. Taking that into account, I watched the rifle’s manometer as I filled the reservoir the second time, and stopped exactly when it hit the top of the green area, which is an indicated 200 bar or 2,900 psi. But as you will see, the needle is quite fat and a bit imprecise.

The onboard manometer (pressure gauge) is located on the end of the air reservoir, where it can be seen easily during a fill.

On the second round, I learned another important thing. This rifle is slightly overfilled when the needle on the manometer is pointing at the max fill spot. In other words, I should have learned where the right high end point was on my more accurate tank gauge and stopped there, because I’ll show you what happened.

On the next group, the first two shots were in the lower right portion of the bull, then they miraculously jumped back to where they belonged in the center. Even so, this was the tightest group of three shots with the JSB 18.1-grain Exact pellet.

The first two pellets went to the 5 o’clock position, while the other eight went closer to the point of aim. Even with this, the group measures only 0.571 inches between the centers of all 10 shots. It’s the best group of the test. This proves that the rifle needs to be exactly on the power curve to shoot its best. Omitting those two shots and the group shrinks to 0.368 inches. Remembering that most writers only shoot 5-shot groups for the record instead of 10, here are 8 that went well under half an inch!

Now I was on a roll and expected the other pellets to perform equally well. They didn’t though. After reading an owner’s report of the gun, I’d selected the best pellet for the rifle and started the test with it.

Beeman Kodiak copper-plated pellets were the worst pellets of the four I tested. They grouped 10 shots into a startlingly large 1.907-inch group at the same 50 yards that JSB Jumbos had made a group less than one-third that size. They were a shock and disappointment, but also a reminder of just how sensitive an airgun can be when it comes to ammunition.

This group of Beeman Kodiak copper-plated pellets was disappointing after the success of the JSB Jumbos. It measures 1.907 inches between centers.

Next, I tried the old favorite 14.3-grain Crosman Premier. At just 14.3 grains, it’s screaming downrange at the ragged edge of accurate velocity, and perhaps just a touch too fast. That’s why they gave a larger group that measured 1.225 inches for 10 shots.

Ten Crosman Premiers went into this group that measures 1.225 inches at 50 yards. It’s not that bad, but we already know this rifle is capable of much better.

The last pellet I tried was the equally brilliant JSB Exact 15-9-grain dome that works so well in a multitude of spring and PCP rifles. I expected great things from it. Alas, it was not to be.

Ten 15.9-grain JSB Exacts went into this group, which measures 1.187 inches between centers. It isn’t as good as I had hoped for this pellet.

Well, the results could not be any clearer. This rifle loves the 18.1-grain JSB Exact Jumbo to the exclusion of the other premium pellets I tried. It also develops the greatest power with this pellet, so nothing is lost by using it.

The HW 100 is also very sensitive to its fill pressure. As long as you stay within the boundaries, the rifle is capable of incredible accuracy; stray out on either side, and the pellets will wander.

The bottom line
If I could justify keeping this fine rifle, I would. But that isn’t going to happen. I already own several accurate PCPs, and my gun storage facility can only hold so much. So, we’ll be shipping it back to Pyramyd AIR very soon. Whoever wants to own this particular beautiful tackdriver should request serial number 1921933.

Dr. Ungier’s answers
Now, we have some answers about protective eyewear questions and related topics from Dr. Mirfee Ungier.

Q. Is polycarbonate OK for the applications we are talking about (pellets and BB’s)?

A. Polycarbonate is more than OK as a safety glass material. ANSI standards have moved entirely to polycarbonate and away from plastics like CR39 (industrial plastic). It may scratch more easily, but maintains its integrity and protective function the best.

Q. If polycarbonate lenses take an impact, does that mean they’re done and you have to get new ones? I believe that’s what they tell us about bike helmets.

A. Polycarbonate can take impacts without cracking or chipping, but you do have to look at it. Especially rimless ones may chip. If there’s any visible defect, replace them. It is much cheaper than replacing an eye.

Q. What are the long-term effects on a person’s vision from frequent use of rifle scopes?

A. I am not aware of any downside of using scopes. People do all the time. If anyone using a scope notices a problem with their vision, they should, of course, get an eye exam. I think of people who use scopes are quite aware of what they are and are not seeing. When they come to me, they are usually better able to communicate than people who do not use their eyes as much. Using eyes is a good thing.

Q. What adverse effects can class III laser sights have on a person’s vision, and how much (or how little) exposure does it take for damage to occur?

A. I am not aware of a study regarding laser time exposure and damage to the eyes. These may not be at the nastier wavelengths, but all lasers by definition are highly coherent beams that can pack a punch. I use red beam aimers for directing other wavelengths into the eyes for therapeutic reasons, and I still try to avoid the center vision. Short glances into a laser scope will probably not cause harm in the short term, but we never recommend it, and you certainly wouldn’t play with them.

Q. What should we do if the unthinkable happens and someone is struck in the eye? What should we do while transporting the individual to the closest ER? What are the emergency first-aid procedures that we should follow?

A. If a serious eye injury occurs, there is no on-the-spot treatment you can do. In fact, most important is to not press on the eye. It is OK to shield it, but pressure could turn a bad injury into a worse one. Then proceed as quickly as possible to an emergency room in a hospital that is equipped to do eye surgery. Calling ahead to be sure would be great. If you are far off the beaten track, then any emergency facility would be OK. During working hours, you could see if there is an ophthalmologist (I mean ophthalmologist, not optometrist or optician, because we may be talking surgery) in town to examine and expedite treatment. Otherwise, call an optometrist for recommendation for the closest facility.

Q. I was wondering if the age of Tom’s old safety glasses could have contributed to their easy destruction. Do time and sunlight degrade the efficiency of protective safety glasses? For instance, what’s the shortest time period in which you should you trust the material integrity of your glasses and be safe while shooting?

A. Safety glasses scratch, age and degrade. Old ones are better than none, but my optician recommends replacing them at least every 2 years.

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Tom Gaylord (B.B. Pelletier)
Tom Gaylord, also known as B.B. Pelletier, provides expert insights to airgunners all over the world on behalf of Pyramyd AIR. He has earned the title The Godfather of Airguns™ for his contributions to the industry, spending many years with AirForce Airguns and starting magazines dedicated to the sport such as Airgun Illustrated.

51 thoughts on “Weihrauch HW 100 S FSB PCP rifle: Part 3”

  1. I have an off-topic question about scopes.
    Do pistol scopes have to be airgun rated like the rifle ones?
    On a pistol like the P1 that gives a fair amount of recoil for example?
    Or are pistol sturdier because of the size and abuse they’re already built for?

    Second off topic question, I’m in Virginia right now and since the place I’m at prefered I didn’t have anything shipped here in my name (and in retrospect judging by the 3 brains cells the people at the welcoming office shared I’m very happy I didn’t) I would like to know if anyone knows of a store I could find airguns at in the Chesapeake bay region?


    • J-F,

      Atlantic Guns in Silver Spring, Maryland, used to sell airguns. I don’t know if they still do, so call them before you go.

      I used to put on a two-day airgun symposium there every April, so mention my name. They should remember me.


      • As recently as a year ago Atlantic had air guns at its Silver Spring location. So far as I know there is no airgun dealer of significance in Fairfax and Arlington Counties. Indeed, I don’t know if there is even a gun store in either altho’ there used to be a few good ones.

    • J-F,

      Kevin reminded me that I didn’t answer your first question. Pistol scopes are just as susceptible to damage from recoil and vibration as rifle scopes. But because they are made for pistols that typically recoil a lot more than rifles, they are made strong to begin with.

      How strong can a handgun recoil? Well, the S&W 500 Magnum has been known to shear off its scope mounts and leave the scope hanging in the air.

      The P1 could be a scope-buster, but probably not, given that pistol scopes are built so rugged.

      I wish I could give you more info, but there aren’t that many pistol scopes around and I’ve only tested a couple of them.


    • JF,
      If you are anywhere near it and can swing a side trip, the NRA museum in Fairfax Va is worth the visit. It’s just south of Interstate 66 (Exit 57), in the area of Dulles airport, which is north of I66.
      Are you in Virginia for long?

      • Thank you all for the nice suggestions but these are sadly a bit too far to justify the detour and bringing everyone there. I’ll the bass pro shop, dick’s and stuff like that, see if I can find something good there (RWS hypermax pellets, a new scope, ballistol and other accessories).
        I’m on the east coast (very east) of VA just north of virginia beach (which I should be going to tommorow if the weather is nice) in a little place called cape charles until the end of the week. Then I will be on the way back home.

        Regarding the pistol scopes it’s exactly what I was thinking, guess we’ll know wuen someone puts one on the P1… If I find a nice not too expensive one I may try it, I’ve never scoped a pistol, I tried a red dot but it’s really not accurate enough, or maybe the one I was using was too cheap, the dot was much bigger than the pellet hole, it made no sense to me so I took it off. If the scope thing works I may scope my Alecto, it shouldn’t be too hard on a scope with only one pump.


        • JF,
          Small world ! I grew up in Norfolk, which is right next to Va Beach. If I was still there we could get together, but I’m now about 4 hours away in Charlottesville, unless you hit the inevitable traffic jam.
          Yes, the temp and humidity can be pretty rough, so I’m glad you are enjoying your vacation.

    • Hi, J-F. Hope you’re enjoying your visit. I had some great times as a kid at the Norfolk naval base and at the Oceana air station. I wonder if they’re as visitor-friendly in the silly post-9/11 era as they were in the cold war days. Check them out if you have time! Or, if you get lucky and a carrier happens to be coming or going, you’ll see the entire air wing flying low from your beach chair!

      On your frustrating airgun shipping problem, I wonder if you could have guns shipped to a local fedex store, or something like that. I have no clue: it’s probably either a great way to receive a PA shipment from VA Beach, or a great way to get yourself an FBI file. Or, just have the stuff shipped to your hotel no matter what the Napoleons at the desk have to say about it!


      • Thanks guys, I’m loving everyminute of my vacation so far.
        Crossed the chesapeake bay bridge tunnel today in a HUGE rain storm, they we’re only letting passenger vehicules on when we got on and when we got off the other side they had stopped all traffic coming in, we we’re in the last few cars to go trough… It’s my third time in this part of the country and I always enjoy it very much.


    • JGC,

      Yes, the trap I got from Jim (thanks) is right now the only one I have remaining. So I used it exclusively with the HW 100, after blowing through my old trap. It held up fine and shows no signs of wear from the experience. 😉


  2. Morning B.B.,

    Yes Atlantic Guns still sells both air rifles and pistols along with an excellent assortment of pellets. Joel is still there and he remembers you and Edith. I was wondering if you would include Beeman Kodiak extra heavy pellets in you testing protocall. They are one of my favorite hunting pellets.


    • Bruce,

      The Copper-Plated Kodiak is identical to the plain lead Extra Heavy Kodiak except for the plating. I( have tested them in other guns and gotten identical results. That’s why I used them here.

      Kodiaks don’t work in this HW 100.


  3. Dr. Ungier,

    I’m puzzled by the nomenclature you used. In my lab physics days I did a lot of experiments using CR-39 to detect certain radioactive decays, so I got to know it fairly well. CR-39 is a polycarbonate plastic. What’s the difference between it and what you are calling polycarbonate?

    -pete z

    For those who care, a heavy nucleus (alpha particle and heavier, usually much heavier) entering CR-39 does damage to the structure of the plastic, but at a microscopic invisible level. If you then etch the stuff in hot sodium hydroxide (NaOH), the defects caused are eaten away much faster than the rest of the material, leaving pits and trails that are easily visible under a microscope. Most home radon detector kits work this way with the etching and scanning done when you send off the test samples.

      • Thanks for pointing me there, but, no. It doesn’t address the question which is this: CR-39 is a polycarbonate plastic. So why do eyeglasses folks differentiate it from “polycarbonate”?

        I am really bothered by chromatic aberration in my spectacles, so I think I will go back to CR-39 for reading and driving glasses and maybe wear “polycarbonate” lenses as safety glasses over the correcting lenses.

        It’s also funny that “polycarbonate” lenses are listed as the cheapest to manufacture… but opticians charge a premium price for them. And they are not optically as good as CR-39 (altho’ they can be lighter).


        • Well, the only other things I can suggest are Wikipedia articles:



          Took me a few moments flipping between the two to spot what may be the key difference…

          CR-39 is a thermosetting plastic; once molded and heated, it doesn’t really change with subsequent heating.

          Polycarbonate is a thermoplastic; it will soften and can be reshaped by the use of heat. (Or, in some applications, without heat — apparently bar and sheet stock can be shaped on metal-working presses and bending rigs)

          • Wulfraed,
            Yes, I can attest to the workability of polycarbonate sheet. Where I work, we’ve made protective covers from various thicknesses of polycarbonate sheet (up to .250 thk) and bent it 90 degrees on a metal working press brake. The spring back is pretty incredible and you have to bend it to almost a 45 degree acute angle to have it return to a permanent 90 degrees.
            VERY tough stuff!

  4. Good Morning all,
    I think B.B. was on to something with the speed thing. I’ve found that 800 to 850fps is where dome shaped pellets like to run… I bet if you tuned down the power the 16 gr. JSB would do just as well.. or even the 13.4 Air Arms version would do as well.. For me, they all do well, when I get them around 815fps. In my USFT BR rig, I’ve tested all these pellets over the crony and on targets outdoors in the wind at 25 meters. In order to stay within the 20fpe limit for the world BR contest, the 13.4 AA is the one that can shoot at 815fps and still be under the limit… and it preforms very, very well. If I up the power, so that the 16 gr. are shooting at 815fps, they do just as well, but of course, I’m over the power limit. The 16 gr. just don’t shoot as well at the 750fps I would have to shoot them to be within the limit.

    So, sports fans, don’t expect that same 18gr. pellet to preform as well if you turn down the power.. you’ll most likely have to change pellets to maintain accuracy. 815fps is where domed pellets like it best.. IMHO

    Wacky Wayne
    Team USA!

    • Wayne,

      Interesting. A 20fpe limit is a variable that I’ve never had to contend with.

      My goal with almost all of my .22 caliber pcp’s was long range (100 yard for me) accuracy. I found with almost all pcp’s that 30-32fpe was ideal. This usually meant jsb 18.1gr hitting 890fps during the middle of the power curve. Very few guns were as accurate long range with heavier or lighter pellets going slower or faster. One exception was my HW100 that was an early fac version with the quick fill. It didn’t care for kodiaks, liked jsb 18.1 gr but was most accurate with H & N Barracuda Match (5.52) AFTER I TURNED DOWN THE POWER TO HIT 890FPS DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE POWER CURVE.


      • Kevin, Hi!

        Yes, that’s the point, if you can or want to shoot 30fpe then you need the 18 to 21 gr pellets to slow you down into the 800s. I had to tune my 32fpe unlimited class bench rest gun down to under 20fpe for the worlds 25 meter HV (Heavy Varmint), B class. It also shot the 18 gr best at 32fpe, but the 16gr had to go too slow at under 750fps to shoot well… so then I tried the 14.3 JSB and they too, were just a little slow.. then I tried the 13.4 Air Arms version, that shoot so well in the marauder pistol and rifles… and yippee!.. they shoot in the low 800s… and 10s and Xs were back in my bench rest game:-) .. the other nice thing about the 13.4 AA pellets is that they are 5.52 and fit nice and tight… my stainless steel, 2 groove, tapered barrel, just loves em.

        Wacky Wayne

  5. BB,
    You might have a small nit-picky error on the Crosman Premires. You referred to them as both 15.3gr and 14.3gr in that paragraph.

    I am impressed with the 50yd targets!

  6. Had I not just sealed a deal on an AA S410 xtra FAC .22,the HW would be a “No-Brainer”.What an awesome pkg! The accuracy is as good as I expected,or slightly better.Of course the S410 is no slouch
    in the accuracy department at 50 yds.

    • Frank B

      I have been lurking on a couple of these for a while. Is the one you purchased the walnut stock version? I am dying to know what a man of your refinement and considerable airgun inventory thinks of this gem. Wayne and Kevin think highly of it, so you are in good company.

      • The one I settled on has an upmarket factory stock.The owner told me it required shelling out an extra $400.IMHO,it was well worth HIS money…LOL.It is a nicely figured walnut factory stock.I’ll email you a link to pics.Kevin and Wayne have had a great influence over my stable! I have an AA s410
        ERB in .177,that is among my most accurate .177 PCP’s @ 50yds.Thanks,Kevin and Wayne.

  7. Thank you Dr. Ungier for the informative answers. Whoa, that last one was quite the shocker–replace safety glasses every two years? That has implications for my $150 goggles.

    And for today’s rifle what a shocker, a pcp with substantial recoil. How is this possible? I don’t recall that the sheer power of this rifle is that different from others. Interesting point about the precision of measurement on the air gauge. I’ve found that my powder scale which can weigh to 1/100 of a grain has a very crude arrow that you have to align to get it balanced, and the darn thing never seems to be exactly, perfectly balanced; I have to keep fiddling with it. So, a lot of the precision of the instrument is wasted here.

    BG_Farmer, that’s a good answer you gave to my question which is why do some people claim to get very good accuracy out of smoothbores when the military technology was known to be extremely inaccurate. This is assuming of course that those who claim the good accuracy are not lying. The guy who makes the biggest claims at the range is missing a few fingers which you would think would make it even more difficult to shoot accurately. Anyway, the answer I gather from you and other sources seems to be to improve the fit between ball and barrel by means of a patch–essentially the reason behind the success of the Daisy 499. A little surprised to hear that even your attention to the right patch doesn’t qualify for you as patching the ball as carefully as some people.


    • I’ve found that my powder scale which can weigh to 1/100 of a grain has a very crude arrow that you have to align to get it balanced, and the darn thing never seems to be exactly, perfectly balanced; I have to keep fiddling with it. So, a lot of the precision of the instrument is wasted here.

      The digital (jewelry) scale I bought to weigh pellets with essentially needs the cover closed over the sample tray — otherwise it responds to pulses in air from various fans in the room.

    • Matt,
      There’s almost literally no end to the lengths people can take things, but I just try to establish what level of precision is necessary and develop a load to that specification. Mainly that is because I do not enjoy load development or bench sitting in themselves. They can become a never-ending task if you demand perfection, but the only things that will be truly attained even then is a proficiency at testing loads from the bench and a sore bottom :). Other people feel differently about benchrest shooting, and that’s fine, too — just my perspective.

  8. B.B.,
    I too have gotten really good results with the JSB MATCH DIABOLO (EXACT Jumbo Heavy) pellets on my .22’s. Especially on my Gamo Hunter Extreme. I found out about this pellet through a customer review.

  9. B.B.

    I’ve got a pipe I was searching for. Now I’ve got to receive synchro assembly, lathe the pipe and glue all the things together. I don’t know if pins are needed yet, but I hope glue would be enough.
    It’s nice to see all the things coming together one way or another. So I’m listening to Vangelis’s “Love Theme” from “Bladerunner” 🙂 One of the movies that had a great impact on me.


  10. ZOMBIE TARGETS (Discussed yesterday)
    Regarding condiment packets for zombie posters – You want to first tape the packet to a piece of duct tape so that one side is completely attached to the duct tape. This is easy to do since the packets are usually not full. You’ll want enough duct tape to extend beyond the packet (maybe an inch+), so that it sticks to the zombie poster. Then you tape the thing to particular spots on the back of the zombie poster. We found that shots subsequent to the first explode out towards the shooter, with a flowered hole, and lots of bleeding. I tape the zombie poster to a fairly stiff piece of poster board. I built a metal frame that I attach the poster board to.

    Again, you can tape these condiment packets behind the hands, head, eyes, mouth, chest, stomach, or wherever your zombies might have useful tissue. My wife’s a good shot, so we were splattering stuff at 50 yards with air-rifles and my Ruger 10/22. BTW, Air-rifles producted the best effect. At 25 yards or closer, it would be less of a challenge, but you’d make a mess much faster.


    • I’m definatly trying that when I’m getting back home, wonder if I could find something to hold a few paintballs to use as zombie brains… Or maybe duct taping a row of paintballs, it could hold them better than the golf tees I’m currently using, I could make rows of paintball between two strips of duct tape and hang them! I’m trying that next week and I’ll report back on it.

      Thanks for the invite, I’d like to go to your part of the country in a few years, when the kids are a bit older, I also like the high temps a lot (which sometimes makes wonder why I live in a place with a winter that lasts almost 6 months. The temps in VA right now are around a 100 degrees with the humidity and it’s really nice to me, the wifey complains about the hair situation but I could be happier.


    • Muhammad,

      200 bar is correct for this rifle. And I assume you have taken the safety off?

      If you filled while watching the onboard manometer the rifle may be overfilled. The onboard gauge is not that precise.

      I don’t know what you mean by “…pellet can not fire pellets brake in the barrel”, but I assume you mean that the pellets aren’t leaving the barrel.

      Remove the pellets in the barrel with a cleaning rod through the muzzle. Then leave the magazine out and dry fire your gun 50 shots. That should exhaust enough air from the tank that the valve is no longer locked. Now reinsert the magazine and try it again.


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